Comments Thread For: David Haye: Joshua Will Knock Oleksandr Usyk Out With a Jab!

[Zaroku]

Everybody over simplyfying the fight, saying it´s a small feather fisted man vs a big stiff robot. AJ will have 3 inches and 15-20 lbs on Usyk, in HW terms not much. AJ is also a much better boxer with good hand speed than he gets credit for - but Usyk has stopped some tough CWs and he seems to have a sturdy chin. AJs right cross and uppercuts will be a constant danger but I´m not putting any money on the fight, especially with Papachenko in Usyk´s corner. What ever the result is I´ll be surprised.

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nice post

[OnlytheTruth]

I´m not putting any money on the fight, especially with Papachenko in Usyk´s corner. What ever the result is I´ll be surprised.

My first question is; who at Heavyweight has Anatoly trained other than Usyk?

My second question is; who in the history of boxing has been able to successfully transfer featherweight and lightweight techniques to a cruiserweight who has bulked up to heavyweight imminently facing a super heavyweight?

I respect Anatoly's skill as a coach to his son...but I can't see that being a deciding factor in this contest. However, I am open to having my mind changed.

[1hourRun]

I'll tell you exactly what punch it's going to be - a jab, right hand and then a straight jab again. The jab will knock out Usyk. He will knock Usyk out with a jab.

The 2012 London Bronze medalist Mahammadrasul Majidov, like 6′ 3″ Oleksandr Usyk rattled Anthony Joshua in the second round of the 2011 AIBA Super-Heavyweight tournament finals ; ironically, Majidov even buckled Joshua with a jab. The shorter man Mahammadrasul Majidov, denied the big-stiff-Brit gold at Baku.

We can see in Anthony Joshua's encounter vs. Mahammadrasul Majidov, that David Haye is clue-less, as Haye's guesswork and failed theory puts A.J on a center-line with his chin exposed getting regularly countered.

David Haye should be fired as a SKYSPORTS boxing commentator : speed does matter, most notably hand-speed, which Oleksandr has. A.J's British-Glass-Jaw is cracked, you do not need Deontay Wilder's incredible KO power to smash it.

David Haye was retired by a overrated bum cruiserweight ( Tony Bellew ); Anthony Joshua may also suffer dimwit David Haye's fate.

[Slowhand]

My first question is; who at Heavyweight has Anatoly trained other than Usyk?

My second question is; who in the history of boxing has been able to successfully transfer featherweight and lightweight techniques to a cruiserweight who has bulked up to heavyweight imminently facing a super heavyweight?

I respect Anatoly's skill as a coach to his son...but I can't see that being a deciding factor in this contest. However, I am open to having my mind changed.

Papachenko was with Usyk vs Gassiev, and that was a near perfect 12 rds against a monster puncher. And Usyk has only gained 10-15 lbs, he just doesn´t cut.

[Noelanthony]

The problem is there just isn't anything to suggest Joshua has the kind of other worldly power to take Usyk out of his comfort zone. I feel his early rounds would be Joshua's best bet and I wouldn't even be surprised to see Joshua score a knockdown. However if Usyk is able to weather the storm then it will be trouble as Joshua really loses momentum in the later rounds and needs a round or two to recover into the 8th-9th. And Usyk is a slow starter. People are reading a lot into the Chisora fight, which is fair, but Chisora is a pressure fighter who constantly comes forward throwing huge bombs. Its a surprisingly difficult style to nullify unless you're physically imposing, can stifle the forward movement with a jab and can move laterally. Either that or just smother Chisora in the clinch. Usyk went for the second option. And whilst his performance didn't set the world on fire, it gave me a clue that the dude likely has an impressive gastank and movement. This for me is Joshua's number one concern as I can see Usyk opting for an early negative fight and banking on Joshua tiring. The only potential miscalculation for Usyk being the amount of mass he's put on in a relatively short space of time.

I like Haye but his predictions are often terrible. They're way too simplistic. I like Wilder but Haye firmly believed Wilder was the favourite in the second fight which I found the laughable. The only thing which I didn't expect was Fury steamrolling him, but I genuinely didn't think Wilder stood any good chance outside of the fact that Fury seemed a little distracted in the build up.

Thats a fair enough assessment

[OnlytheTruth]

Papachenko was with Usyk vs Gassiev, and that was a near perfect 12 rds against a monster puncher. And Usyk has only gained 10-15 lbs, he just doesn´t cut.

I respectfully disagree and I know you said 'near perfect' but Usyk was fighting a guy who was the same height and he had a reach advantage on. So that's comparing apples and oranges when you bring a super-HW into the equation. I 100% thought that Usyk won and by a wide margin but it doesn't really answer my question as this all happened at Cruiser.

Massive puncher? He connected well with Usyk in the fourth and he puts a lot into them and they look good on a highlight reel but Gassiev's 21 KO's include 11 with losing records and 1 with a wining record who lost his last 6.

[Clegg]

My first question is; who at Heavyweight has Anatoly trained other than Usyk?

My second question is; who in the history of boxing has been able to successfully transfer featherweight and lightweight techniques to a cruiserweight who has bulked up to heavyweight imminently facing a super heavyweight?

I respect Anatoly's skill as a coach to his son...but I can't see that being a deciding factor in this contest. However, I am open to having my mind changed.

Yeah, he's a good coach but it does seem a lot of the technique will be less effective here.

The only trainer I can think of who trained a smaller HW vs bigger ones and also had success at LW around the same time is Lou Duva with Holyfield and Sweet Pea, and of course he used different techniques, gameplans for them.

[Slowhand]

I respectfully disagree and I know you said 'near perfect' but Usyk was fighting a guy who was the same height and he had a reach advantage on. So that's comparing apples and oranges when you bring a super-HW into the equation. I 100% thought that Usyk won and by a wide margin but it doesn't really answer my question as this all happened at Cruiser.

Massive puncher? He connected well with Usyk in the fourth and he puts a lot into them and they look good on a highlight reel but Gassiev's 21 KO's include 11 with losing records and 1 with a wining record who lost his last 6.

As long as we´re respectful. Usyk did just fine with big boys in WSB five rounders.. but this is all just guessing, we´ll just have to wait and see. One thing worries me tho, Usyk better not waste five rounds warming up and measuring AJ.

[Heru]

The 1-2-1 is a good combination to catch Usyk clean, but he will have to be hurt or broken down for it to be a knockout blow.

I expect Usyk to stand just outside of Joshua’s range and push the pace from there to test AJ’s stamina. If Joshua displays any weakness, Usyk will pounce on him. This is a dangerous fight for Joshua.

[juggernaut666]

The 1-2-1 is a good combination to catch Usyk clean, but he will have to be hurt or broken down for it to be a knockout blow.

I expect Usyk to stand just outside of Joshua’s range and push the pace from there to test AJ’s stamina. If Joshua displays any weakness, Usyk will pounce on him. This is a dangerous fight for Joshua.

The only pouncing going to be done is by Joshua . Joshua is to strong for Usyk to push the pace ,only chance Usyk has if he can lure him outside center ring which is going to happen but how much and can Usyk catch him off angles for 12 rounds ,that’s highly doubtful before he gets clocked and stopped .