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  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

    So Haymon isn't going to let his fighters go to DAZN even though the better deal is over there? But this is Eddie's fault?

    Eddie can't make offers to himself on behalf of PBC fighters. So what he needs to do is, ask them to get in touch and make offers to get these fights on for the good of boxing. They won't do so. But this is still Eddie's fault?

    Why do you have a negative opinion of other promoters who are just trying to make fights for their platform, but never for Haymon and the PBC? Why is it always everybody else's fault?
    Being disingenuous doesn’t help. DAZN wants to increase subscriptions in America. Haymon isn’t going for help them do that.

    Hearn is aware of this. Hearn understands the business environment of the sport. He also knows what TR and GBP are doing with their LW boxers. So yes it’s his fault if he can’t get Haney fights.

    Yes, what he needs to do is use his boxers at or near LW- Burns, Farmer and Campbell- to give Haney fights to build his profile.

    That should be a full calendar year. The we see where things are.

    I literally posted Tank has no interest in Haney and is doing in house based on what Floyd said. That is the exact same criticism I said about gbp and TR.

    The problem for you is pbc, TR, and gbp have marketable opponents for their guys. Hearn doesn’t for Haney.

    That is the key to promoting in this era- get the top guys but also secure the best competition.

    Hearn failed to do that for Haney. I don’t see how that isn’t his fault.
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    • Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

      One reason Floyd doesn't wanna make the Haney fight for Davis is because he's close to both, closer to Haney I'd say. He doesn't wanna derail Haney while both can hunt elsewhere for now. So I don't expect that fight for a while.
      Yeah, Davis should fight more bums instead. Floyd doesn't want to ruin the friendships he has with every top opponent that Davis has. Well, it's either that or some other nonsensical reason. Hey?

      Just make sure you have your $80 for the PPV. Davis is a star. So they say. Haha.

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      • Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
        Hearn should stick to the UK scene. He's obviously not wanted or needed here, seeing how both his crappy promotional company and DAZN have failed miserably in the States. If I ever see this snake oil salesman on a US TV again, it'd be too soon. I will avoid his UK fights too.

        Stay in the UK.
        Can I get a witness!

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        • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          I feel sorry for Haney in a way, none of them would ever reach out to fight him, and none of them would even entertain offers especially Team Tank, you have Garcia and JoJo Diaz fighting each other in one of those interim fights, when there is a direct route to actually fight for the title. But they would rather make excuses about how he doesn’t “sell” etc.

          Not sure what Hearn is smoking here but when is he going to give up on PBC boxers?
          Captain Ahab never gave up on the white whale…..

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            So you support lots of fights not happening, even though you're supposed to be a boxing fan? All for Al Haymon? Wow, that is some kind of dedication to a man you'll never meet and overrides any logic as a boxing fan. Strange.

            Is this all Hearns fault too? Is their refusal to fight on any platform no matter how much the fight should happen for the health of the sport all good for you as a boxing fan? This is what you want and justify? But instead of blaming the ones at fault, it's all Hearn's failure to get extremists to negotiate in good faith?

            Right.
            That is a ****** interpretation.

            I don’t like the environment but I understand it is what it is. Just like I don’t like the flagrant foul rule in the nba, inter league play in baseball, or the protection of the QB and focus on offense in the nfl.

            I simply try to find solutions within the parameters we’re faced with. Not constantly complain about the parameters when I can’t change them.

            WTF? I didn’t blame everything on Hearn. Where the f-ck did you get that from? I talked about Haney only.

            It’s not extremists Sid knee. It’s business competitors. Being honest about the parameters isn’t justifying it.

            Hearn signed Haney but clearly he didn’t factor in the current climate. This is the same thing people are saying about TR and Crawford.

            Its not some anti Hearn, anti British thing. Relax .
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-17-2021, 05:50 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

              PBC only ever do in house fights. Top Rank and GBP have shown in the past they can work with others yet all of a sudden in the lightweight division they all want to go in-house. You say Hearn needs to do his job and secure quality opponent's, but what is he supposed to do to secure those opponents if their being kept in-house lol. Their clearly all avoiding Haney and its this nonsense that is killing the sport. Hearns hands are tied.
              You're trying to rationalise with an extremist.

              He's with the cult of PBC. It's never their fault. Even if he has to constantly contradict himself. It's the fault of everyone else. Even if they're doing everything to get these fights on while PBC just sit back and refuse to budge. PBC can do no wrong in his eyes.

              Boxing is crippled due to this cowardice and fanatical sycophancy towards someone who is nothing but a cancer to the sport he claims to be a fan of.
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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                He should regret it because he can’t make money and can’t get him fights because his competitors aren’t going to help him.

                I don’t think he does make big fights. Where is the ggg/Andrade in house MW unification?

                I think Hearn is using the media regarding Haney. He has in house LW’s to make fights with.
                Hearn only co promotes Golovkin. And i'm sure he's got a fight already planned with Murata.

                Hearn however did make a big offer to another PBC coward in Charlo. But he refuses point blank to fight. Hearn has even offered Andrade to fight on their platform. But they never send any counter offers. So it isn't about platforms, it's about cowards not wanting to fight proper opposition. Like it always is. The platform excuse is just a road block. Knock the road block down, and another 3 are put up.

                And on it goes.
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                • Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
                  Hearn should stick to the UK scene. He's obviously not wanted or needed here, seeing how both his crappy promotional company and DAZN have failed miserably in the States. If I ever see this snake oil salesman on a US TV again, it'd be too soon. I will avoid his UK fights too.

                  Stay in the UK.
                  Clearly shows how successful Hearn is in your minds eye. You just don't want him to run the show. It makes you insecure.

                  DAZN had nearly a million subscriptions in the US before the pandemic. I'd say that was DAZN making inroads. But you knew that already. Not like the shlte numbers PBC get constantly proving what a tragic car crash they are for the health of the sport.

                  I didn't even care about the Hearn takeover. I just want boxing to be run properly. I don't care who does it. But i want him to take over now knowing how much it makes the likes of your seethe with bitterness.
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                  • Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

                    Remember how he positioned bum Campbell for many championship opportunities, but can't find crap for his Black fighters. Why didn't he make Fury-Joshua?
                    Campbell earned the right through mandatory. Like any other fighter.

                    Hearn tried to make AJ/Fury. He did everything he could. But that coward Wilder and Haymon got in the way. Just like they have for the past 6 years in creating a boxing traffic jam.

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                    • Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk View Post
                      Here's a good reason.
                      Edward rematch clause slave trader junior hearn
                      Yeah Eddie is the king of rematches lol.
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