Charles Martin vs Andy Ruiz?

[billeau2]

Ruiz is the more polished fighter with better pedigree, better skills, quicker hands and good chin. He should defeat Martin if he's mentally and physically prepared. That's a big "if" tho.

Martin is a big southpaw and can crack. He was blown out by AJ because he was up against a better man and because he froze being on the big stage. He has the physical advantages and if he can stay at a distance and use his advantages he can make it a competitive fight.

Being a southpaw helps lol. Martin can crack... Its a test for Ruiz. He should be at his best ready to prime in the next year, or so. Martin could grow a bit as well... Its possible.

[billeau2]

Just don’t make it the main event.

Shiat at this point? I would watch two midgets with balloon gloves... yeah let them wear masks...

[billeau2]

Yea he fought guys out of the top 50 ? Crazy posters supportive Ortiz agenda like you like who are really bad ones like
billeau2 these guys are a cancer , thankfully they are a slim number on the forum and ones like me keeping them in check ,no one avoided Ortiz his own team said they they declined a career high payday for AJ years ago ,you are also a cancer on here like Silly Billy .

Is that your new go to phrase? At least your not making bad predictions... Shoulder Roll Broke ya!

[MONGOOSE66]

Yea he fought guys out of the top 50 ? Crazy posters supportive Ortiz agenda like you like who are really bad ones like
billeau2 these guys are a cancer , thankfully they are a slim number on the forum and ones like me keeping them in check ,no one avoided Ortiz his own team said they they declined a career high payday for AJ years ago ,you are also a cancer on here like Silly Billy .

And u have no proof of what u say. All I can say is Ortiz is a POOR man that can fight at the top level, but you say he doesnt WANT TO FIGHT?
A broke man who makes a LIVING FIGHTING??? Your ******. Argue that pendejo.
You probably believe the earth is flat too.

[rickJen]

So we'll never get to see Luis Ortiz fight another PBC fighter. Very sad.
Ortiz might as well retire. There's nothing for him for another 2-3 years, I'm afraid.
Problem is compounded when he prices himself out when Hearn is the one making the offer.

[SplitSecond]

So we'll never get to see Luis Ortiz fight another PBC fighter. Very sad.
Ortiz might as well retire. There's nothing for him for another 2-3 years, I'm afraid.
Problem is compounded when he prices himself out when Hearn is the one making the offer.

My theory is Ortiz is saved for championship fights. Same as Ugas. In Haymon’s world it’s treating a fighter badly when you make them fight good fights without a belt on the line. Same business we see with Danny Garcia. These guys hang around the top 10 by hording the position via just not losing. All they gotta do is fight back a little when they go up against the champs.

[rickJen]

My theory is Ortiz is saved for championship fights. Same as Ugas. In Haymon’s world it’s treating a fighter badly when you make them fight good fights without a belt on the line. Same business we see with Danny Garcia. These guys hang around the top 10 by hording the position via just not losing. All they gotta do is fight back a little when they go up against the champs.

Well, it made sense for Ortiz's management team; fight scrubs while waiting for another multi-million $$ offer from Hearn.
But now it's looking like DAZN no longer approves of Hearn's senseless spending binge, and time is running out for them.

[REDEEMER]

And u have no proof of what u say. All I can say is Ortiz is a POOR man that can fight at the top level, but you say he doesnt WANT TO FIGHT?
A broke man who makes a LIVING FIGHTING??? Your ******. Argue that pendejo.
You probably believe the earth is flat too.

Ortiz has done nothing in 11 years but get two gift title fights ,he has fought no one of worth and hopes to get gift title fights ,I know he wants Wilder to win because he will be granted another he’s literally turned down multiple offers and has a 36 fight career of who exactly ? so what is there to prove ,perhaps beating Mike Martz again for it ?

[MONGOOSE66]

Ortiz has done nothing in 11 years but get two gift title fights ,he has fought no one of worth and hopes to get gift title fights ,I know he wants Wilder to win because he will be granted another he’s literally turned down multiple offers and has a 36 fight career of who exactly ? so what is there to prove ,perhaps beating Mike Martz again for it ?

He is continuously begging for fights from top guys not nobodies. He needs the money.

[rickJen]

Looks like Martin and Ruiz ducked Ortiz.

Where is Luis now? Is he retired?