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  • _Rexy_
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    #71
    Originally posted by VegasRaiders

    Maybe because no one scared to fight mayweather, no one wants their eye socket broke..
    yeah, two divisions are sitting on their hands waiting because they're all terrified of Canelo.

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    • Jab jab boom
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      #72
      Originally posted by Luilun

      Everyone wanted Mayweather payday because losing meant no pain no bruises no broken ribs or face. At worse just a $ucker Punch
      so your implication is that people are terrified of canelo and his 64% ko rate? You guys are really gassed off that Saunders quit job.

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      • SweetPbfAli
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        #73
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic
        The Shadow guy has over 30,000 posts since joining six years ago. Thugnelo has over 20,000 in three years. I wonder if these are paid accounts to push narratives on various sides, like you see with all the youtube channels, to divide people and try to get people emotionally invested in all this soap opera BS? We don't have access to the info we would need to prove something like that, but I think we're naive if we don't start to ask those questions. I am not accusing those posters of being paid accounts, but I wonder about it in general, and any posters with crazy post counts who are push divisive soap opera narratives are more likely to be than others.
        Very legit question. I wonder the same.

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        • DeeMoney
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          #74
          Originally posted by Roj
          “The root problem that boxing media are afraid to talk about is that it doesn't matter what date a fight is on when the fight is crap. No one cares about Canelo vs Plant, Bivol, Benavidez (the one they keep trying to hype up but that is probably the worst fight of all of them, Benavidez is just big that's it), Charlo, Spence (too small, almost lost to Shawn Porter at 147, Canelo supposedly knocked out Kovalve at 175, so do the math), Beterbiev (old and lost all his handspeed already. It's a repeat of the GGG situation), Zurdo (slow, basic, no defense or ring IQ, almost lost to Jesse Hart who is terrible), or any of these guys from 160 to 175.

          There are no good fights out there in these weight classes. Billy Joe Saunders was a top middleweight, he dominated David Lemieux just as much as old GGG did, and you saw what a bad fight he put up vs Canelo. None of these guys will make good matchups. It's just a bad era for boxing. For the last 15 years, no one fights each other, and a sinking tide lowers all boats. The state of the sport has finally caught up with itself. There are no good opponents anymore because for 15 years straight, the fights that are necessary to develop and reveal good opponents have not happened.
          At this point the only solution is to stop watching the "sport" and find more productive things to do with your time. Then maybe you can check back in 5 or 10 years, but by then after moving on to more productive things, you might realize it's not worth it anyway.”

          well said - exactly right
          Wonder if the diluted talent issue would be better if you got rid if all the ‘in-between’ weight classes (super and juniors).

          All these guys at 168, for example, would have to drop down to mw or bump up to lw; adding a lot more talent and depth to each of those classes. Now do that across the board, youd essentially double the talent pool in each class across the board.

          Not that it matters, you aint getting that toothpaste back in the bottle, but man it would make things better.

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #75
            Originally posted by Luilun

            Everyone wanted Mayweather payday because losing meant no pain no bruises no broken ribs or face. At worse just a $ucker Punch
            Lol STOP it. . This is the most nonsensical thing posted in this thread. Canelo isn't Mike Tyson. And people still fought mike for them huge paydays even though they knew he'd dominate them.

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            • MrShakeAndBake
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              #76
              I thought Clenelo wanted to fight Beterbiev, was literrally stalking him, whaah happeen ??? LOL
              Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 08-06-2021, 09:37 PM.

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              • rrayvez
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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                The Shadow guy has over 30,000 posts since joining six years ago. Thugnelo has over 20,000 in three years. I wonder if these are paid accounts to push narratives on various sides, like you see with all the youtube channels, to divide people and try to get people emotionally invested in all this soap opera BS? We don't have access to the info we would need to prove something like that, but I think we're naive if we don't start to ask those questions. I am not accusing those posters of being paid accounts, but I wonder about it in general, and any posters with crazy post counts who are push divisive soap opera narratives are more likely to be than others.
                interesting take but there’s a much better chance that they’re just two unemployed idiots with no female companionship & are madly in love with Canelo.

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                • PRchamp
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                  #78
                  You can be a Canelo fan, Plant fan, PBC fan, DAZN fan, FOX fan but can we all agree that Boxing is just ridiculous from the business stand point. Keep shooting itself in the foot, the end result is….

                  -Canelo loses on a $40 million payday
                  - Plant loses on a $10 million payday
                  - another weak September Mexican card
                  - Canelo stalls the sport

                  this fight was a lay up to make since all the belts are on the line but just like Crawford-Spence, when something so easy can be made greedy hands want a piece of the pie. Not every fight is a Mayweather-Pacquiao payday


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                  • Boxing Logic
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by SweetPbfAli

                    Very legit question. I wonder the same.
                    Just go to boxing news 24 dot com. Most the comments are one line comments talking about how black fighters beat all the white fighters and it's so satisfying, white fighters beat all the black fighters and it's so satisfying, Canelo is a scared Mexican coward, black PBC fighters are scared of Mexicans like Canelo, PBC is terrible, Europeans are terrible, Canelo beat the breaks off the British Billy Joe Saunders because Brits are terrible, blah blah blah.

                    It's just lots of comments trying to separate people into different groups and pit them against each other, and it seems contrived. It's CNN except on a boxing website. And if you look at what a lot of youtubers and boxingscene commenters do, it's the same thing in real time as you see in those boxing comments, just using different communication forms to do it. Youtube videos are sometimes longform, whereas the forum comments are short-form, one-line baiting comments.

                    Boxing is a small fry game. People punching people. At least, in real fights, they punch people. The point is, no serious people in power care who wins a punching contest. Even a real punching contest, they don't care, let alone WWE. And that includes the WWE athletes themselves, they don't care. They are so influential, they have millions watching them fight, and thousands listening to them talk in a press conference, millions following their tweets and instagram posts. Who wins or loses a punching contest means nothing compared to that type of influence, and the agendas that can be pushed using that influence. And they increase their influence much more by working together than by competing against each other, not that people with a shared agenda would do that in the first place, but I'm just saying. All this division and tribal baiting, yes it helps ticket sales, yes it helps generate revenue, but that's just one thing it accomplishes. There can be deeper reasons for pushing that bull**** and they don't have to have anything to do with sports, or even money. But sports being very popular around the world sure is an effective tool to use to push these agendas onto millions of people, that's for sure.
                    Last edited by Boxing Logic; 08-07-2021, 02:24 AM.

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                    • GucciGod
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by AeroED
                      catchweight canelo at it again
                      Anus ED at it again

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