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Porters on the verge of ATGreatness. Why is he still called a gatekeeper,bum,etc.?
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View PostPeople toss around ATG crowns like stale Halloween candy.
If Porter beats Bud and is considered an ATG, then everyone is.
I rate a fighter off how many top wins they have at welter weight in this case as an ATG. If Porter beats Bud he will have a claim that he literally cleaned out ww in his era v ALL the best but kept getting robbed. (You got guys like ggg who is annointed as ATG because his fans saltily say he WaS RoBbEd bY a LiL GiNgEr.
Whitaker didn't beat much at ww either but hes treated as a atg ww,& Porter has literally fought & arguably beaten who fighters like Spence & Bud get credit for anyways.
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Originally posted by kushking View Post
Ppl constantly act as if beating Indongo,Postol,Horn etc.etc in multiple weightclasses makes you an ATG,yet the argument many make against other fighters is that they warent ATGs in specific weightclasses Because they didn't fight nobody there.
I rate a fighter off how many top wins they have at welter weight in this case as an ATG. If Porter beats Bud he will have a claim that he literally cleaned out ww in his era v ALL the best but kept getting robbed. (You got guys like ggg who is annointed as ATG because his fans saltily say he WaS RoBbEd bY a LiL GiNgEr.
Whitaker didn't beat much at ww either but hes treated as a atg ww,& Porter has literally fought & arguably beaten who fighters like Spence & Bud get credit for anyways.
Regardless of div, a person has to go by the strength of the resume. It saddens me when BOXING FANS refuse to give a persons resume an honest appraisal.Fists_of_Fury likes this.
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He is a glorified gate keeper like Andre Berto but on a slightly higher level.
im tired of watching the guy tbh
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Lol why do you equate Shawn Porter and Pernell Whitaker?
Whitaker was a four division champion. He was the undisputed lightweight champion and lineal welterweight champion. He also won a title above Porter’s weight class at 154, against a guy who’s better than anyone Porter has ever beaten.
Even if you just look at just welterweight, Whitikar beat Buddy McGirt twice.
Who has Shawn Porter beaten on McGirt’s level?
He hasn’t even beaten anyone on Wilfredo Rivera’s level or Jake Rodriguez’s level.
Originally posted by kushking View Post
Ppl constantly act as if beating Indongo,Postol,Horn etc.etc in multiple weightclasses makes you an ATG,yet the argument many make against other fighters is that they warent ATGs in specific weightclasses Because they didn't fight nobody there.
I rate a fighter off how many top wins they have at welter weight in this case as an ATG. If Porter beats Bud he will have a claim that he literally cleaned out ww in his era v ALL the best but kept getting robbed. (You got guys like ggg who is annointed as ATG because his fans saltily say he WaS RoBbEd bY a LiL GiNgEr.
Whitaker didn't beat much at ww either but hes treated as a atg ww,& Porter has literally fought & arguably beaten who fighters like Spence & Bud get credit for anyways.
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Originally posted by kushking View Post
Ppl constantly act as if beating Indongo,Postol,Horn etc.etc in multiple weightclasses makes you an ATG,yet the argument many make against other fighters is that they warent ATGs in specific weightclasses Because they didn't fight nobody there.
I rate a fighter off how many top wins they have at welter weight in this case as an ATG. If Porter beats Bud he will have a claim that he literally cleaned out ww in his era v ALL the best but kept getting robbed. (You got guys like ggg who is annointed as ATG because his fans saltily say he WaS RoBbEd bY a LiL GiNgEr.
Whitaker didn't beat much at ww either but hes treated as a atg ww,& Porter has literally fought & arguably beaten who fighters like Spence & Bud get credit for anyways.
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Making claims like this is asking for people to criticize him. He ain't close to ATG even with a Crawford win and he is currently a step above gatekeeper. He arguably just beat the #1 147bler and the last #1 147lber years ago.
Yes he lost to Brook and unnofically to Ugas, but you can say the same about other current P4P fighters.
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