Joyce vs Wilder - who wins?

[eco1]

How am I always wrong when I was the only one who picked Fury to stop Wilder (probably Denium as well) when everyone said it’s by decision?

Wait there.
I said Fury would have stopped Wilder in the first if he would have pressed and that is why I picked him to destroy Wilder in the second.

[eco1]

When did Fury walk through Wilder's punches?

Go watch the first two rounds of the second fight, Fury was shot flush a few times and kept coming.

[Tatabanya]

How am I always wrong when I was the only one who picked Fury to stop Wilder (probably Denium as well) when everyone said it’s by decision?

Me as well. I picked Fury to stop Wilder in both fights. Even won some nice money on the KO.

[Dakuwaqa]

Wilder KO

No human is taking regular flush right hands from Wilder.

Easy win

[Tatabanya]

Some elements to consider.

1) How's Wilder's mind? It appears to be gone for good, in that case he would just self-disintegrate in the ring.
2) Joyce has fought no one who hits hard like Wilder, so his chin is still unproven. And I believe Dubois is overrated.
3) Joyce is no Fury in terms of speed and reactivity, thus he is easier to hit.

I think Wilder, if in a decent mental shape, wins with the first punch he lands on Joyce's head.

[Toffee]

Go watch the first two rounds of the second fight, Fury was shot flush a few times and kept coming.

Moving backwards, saw them, and took glancing shots.

At no point did he walk through Wilder's punches as ****Em claimed.

You don't walk through Wilder's punches. Fury's approach was exactly to avoid that. He pressured Wilder and took the right hand away from him.

[BangEM]

Wilder KO

No human is taking regular flush right hands from Wilder.

Easy win

I guess Fury isn’t human then.

Name one legit top-10 boxer (not some fake boogeyman 52-yr old Cuban bum) Wilder has knocked out.

Wilder fans are the dumbest on this board. You muppet still believe in that PBC marketing crap about Wilder’s power after Fury walked through him and beat him like a thief? You lot are irredeemable!

[BangEM]

Moving backwards, saw them, and took glancing shots.

At no point did he walk through Wilder's punches as ****Em claimed.

You don't walk through Wilder's punches. Fury's approach was exactly to avoid that. He pressured Wilder and took the right hand away from him.

They weren’t glancing shots - he just rode them well and kept moving forward.

Molina, Duhupas, Arreola, etc got hit by Wilder flush many times until they finally succumbed. So what makes you think no one can walk through Wilder’s punches?

Then again you’re one of those who think Wilder is the biggest puncher ever. LMAOOO.

[Toffee]

They weren’t glancing shots - he just rode them well and kept moving forward.

Molina, Duhupas, Arreola, etc got hit by Wilder flush many times until they finally succumbed. So what makes you think no one can walk through Wilder’s punches?

Then again you’re one of those who think Wilder is the biggest puncher ever. LMAOOO.

Big assumption to make. I don't think that at all.

I think he throws with everything he has from range. Plenty of fighters would have similar devastating power if they were prepared to give up their balance and form. Most don't because they don't need to make that compromise as they can actually box.

Again, no-one has walked through Wilder's punches. You walk him down, he can't throw. That's what Fury did. Wilder was able to land when Fury gave him distance but he closed that down very quickly.

For Joyce, it would come down to whether he has the nerve, movement and speed to get into range and then keep on coming. If he can do that he dominates Wilder. Maybe he could take Wilder's shots from range but that wouldn't be much of a strategy, albeit that seems to have been his approach to date.

[BangEM]

Big assumption to make. I don't think that at all.

I think he throws with everything he has from range. Plenty of fighters would have similar devastating power if they were prepared to give up their balance and form. Most don't because they don't need to make that compromise as they can actually box.

Again, no-one has walked through Wilder's punches. You walk him down, he can't throw. That's what Fury did. Wilder was able to land when Fury gave him distance but he closed that down very quickly.

For Joyce, it would come down to whether he has the nerve, movement and speed to get into range and then keep on coming. If he can do that he dominates Wilder. Maybe he could take Wilder's shots from range but that wouldn't be much of a strategy, albeit that seems to have been his approach to date.

Getting hit and being unfazed = walking through the punch. Fury did it in the rematch. And the likes of Arreola, Molina, Duhuapas did it for a while until their chins couldn’t hold due to the cumulative effect.

Wilder isn’t that heavy handed as the exaggeration out there - it’s about the explosiveness and inability of boxers that aren’t that skilled to anticipate it despite how he telegraphs it. Hence I’ve always said any decent top-10 boxer with power would knock Wilder out clean. Fury did it in the rematch - by anticipating Wilder’s right hand whenever he sets and riding the punches. So he did walk through those punches.

Wilder would’ve to be able to get past Joyce’s jab to do anything tbh. If Dubois couldn’t land his right despite being more skilled than Wilder. What makes you think Wilder would be able to? Takam had success because he was timing the jab with overhand right. Wilder on the other hand doesn’t throw overhead rights and wouldn’t know what timing is.