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PAC been thru more WARS than GGG, how is GGG “old” or shot? TEAM PAC say age is all mental

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

    I agree. And fans bring up amateur fights as some hinderance. Rigo was still competing with his close to 500 amateur fights.

    fans don’t want to acknowledge that GGG has impeccable defense. They assume that even in sparring or amateur fights that Golovkin doesnt/didn’t have great defense to not accumulate wartorn excuses
    There you go again comparing ggg to pac and now comparing him to rigo

    Ggg has taken more punches in a single fight than rigo would have in his entire amateur career

    You need to stop being bias to an agenda of trying to make canelo look better


    Ggg wasn't shot to bits when he fought canelo however he was declining and canelo was just getting into his prime

    Both great fighters, those two fights they had were extremely competitive and close

    Just shows how good both of them are

    We all know now that ggg has been out for a while and hasn't looked nearly as sharp as he did

    So most believe he is shot and wouldn't be competitive with canelo now
    Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 07-24-2021, 06:15 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

      There you go again comparing ggg to pac and now comparing him to rigo

      Ggg has taken more punches in a single fight than rigo would have in his entire amateur career

      You need to stop being bias to an agenda of trying to make canelo look better


      Ggg wasn't shot to bits when he fought canelo however he was declining and canelo was just getting into his prime

      Both great fighters, those two fights they had were extremely competitive and close

      Just shows how good both of them are

      We all know now that ggg has been out for a while and hasn't looked nearly as sharp as he did

      So most believe he is shot and wouldn't be competitive with canelo now
      You’re an example that GGG always gets a pass. GGG is a con artist and Karma hit him. He knew that the pandering he did was bad. That’s why he’s not worried about cameras anymore. He feels ashamed that he went along with Loeffler and Abel’s character acts. Considering how GGG is still moving today is the reason why he didn’t choose to challenge himself starting from 2013. The whole 154-168 was garbage. Even PAC didn’t stoop to that. At least Pac did catchweights… GGG’s only catch was with Rolls at 164…

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

        You’re an example that GGG always gets a pass. GGG is a con artist and Karma hit him. He knew that the pandering he did was bad. That’s why he’s not worried about cameras anymore. He feels ashamed that he went along with Loeffler and Abel’s character acts. Considering how GGG is still moving today is the reason why he didn’t choose to challenge himself starting from 2013. The whole 154-168 was garbage. Even PAC didn’t stoop to that. At least Pac did catchweights… GGG’s only catch was with Rolls at 164…
        Has ggg being caught with clenbuteral in his system ? Perhaps with his bone structure he just never needed to move up in weight and was comfortable making 160 so he stayed there

        Its the logical thing to do and that's fighting in a weight class you're comfortable in

        Now canelo is going up and down like a rocket and he started at 154 remember for years then he started making his own weights at 155 ect but too scared to moved up to 160 and be done with it
        Let's not forget it took canelo a long time to get where he is, a few gift decisions on the way and even in fights he won some of the score cards were filled out the week before

        Canelo only started believing in himself once he had an even back and forth fight with ggg but prior to that he did **** all but hide in canelo weight

        Granted now he's challenging himself but with the tainted meat scandal on his shoulders perhaps he has some other source of confidence

        I mean the guy ducked going into 160 for years fighting in his made up weight classes and you're trying to say ggg was a ducker for not going out of his natural weight class,that's extremely rich from a canelo fanboy
        Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 07-24-2021, 06:29 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

          GGG is a con artist
          I agree with you, he's actually worse than borat, if u can believe that, & he speaks perfect english too but its all an act he puts on, hes a total fake and always will be, u have done a fantastic job over the years exposing his shenanigans

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

            Has ggg being caught with clenbuteral in his system ? Perhaps with his bone structure he just never needed to move up in weight and was comfortable making 160 so he stayed there

            Its the logical thing to do and that's fighting in a weight class you're comfortable in

            Now canelo is going up and down like a rocket and he started at 154 remember for years then he started making his own weights at 155 ect but too scared to moved up to 160 and be done with it
            Let's not forget it took canelo a long time to get where he is, a few gift decisions on the way and even in fights he won some of the score cards were filled out the week before

            Canelo only started believing in himself once he had an even back and forth fight with ggg but prior to that he did **** all but hide in canelo weight

            Granted now he's challenging himself but with the tainted meat scandal on his shoulders perhaps he has some other source of confidence

            I mean the guy ducked going into 160 for years fighting in his made up weight classes and you're trying to say ggg was a ducker for not going out of his natural weight class,that's extremely rich from a canelo fanboy
            What does it matter if Canelo had Clenbuterolz. Canelo didn’t invent bovine worldwide given Clenbuterol. Margaret Goodman said eating any contaminated meat would “TECHNICALLY PRODUCE A POSITIVE RESULT.” WADA allowed 2NG in a 2019 revision. Before that no Clenbuterol was allowed, yet both USADA and VADA exonerated athletes worldwide whom had positive results, just like Francisco Vargas who had double Canelo’s amount and had an adverse finding closer to his fight. Industry didn’t care. Why? Because like I said, Canelo isn’t the antagonist anymore due to his alliance with Oscar/GBP. Canelo always had to acquire any animosity towards Oscar or GBP.

            min 2021 WADA even revised their 2019 Clen list from 2ng NOW up to 5ng.

            only an idiot, a complete idiot, wouldnt think that that WADA hasn’t been revising a solution for contaminated meat which was why they never gave it a threshold. With progressions and spectrometry analysis WADA has finally figured )with classified research) how to spot cheats. That’s why it now has a threshold.

            GBP always knew that Clen thing with Canelo wasn’t problem as VaDa knew too. It was GBP benefiting for more time in the rematch. That’s all. Because of strict liability there was nothing GBP could do unless they gave K2 a significant amount and readjustment from the purses. GBP refused and that’s that.

            The truth is that God favors WADA. That’s why Mexicans are allowed Clenbuterol now. “Oh no wait… that’s a joke innit.. but how is it joke?!” - Dumb Boxing fan

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Smash View Post

              I agree with you, he's actually worse than borat, if u can believe that, & he speaks perfect english too but its all an act he puts on, hes a total fake and always will be, u have done a fantastic job over the years exposing his shenanigans
              There’s a saying in Spanish, “No Se Puede Jugar Boxeo.” It means “boxing isn’t a game.” With fans casually boasting about duck theorems, how one doesn’t analyze “154-168 is easy for me” yet never does anything for paydays in those realms until they exploit Canelo…yeah, that’s a con artist or a coward…

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

                There&154-168 is easy for me
                im not sure exactly what the quote is as ive forgotten, was it a post fight ring interview? anyway if i had a dollar for every time this is mentioned i think i just might be very very happy person

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Smash View Post

                  im not sure exactly what the quote is as ive forgotten, was it a post fight ring interview? anyway if i had a dollar for every time this is mentioned i think i just might be very very happy person
                  ESNEWS sat with Abel and GGG in 2012 at a restaurant. Ellie asked GGG “you could make 154?” GGG said “yes, from 154-168 is easy for me.” With the context of weight classes it’s obvious Gennadiy knew that 154 = Super Welter and 168 = Super Middleweight. If it were easy Abel Sanchez would’ve convinced GGG to campaign at the classes that would make him the most money. This is common sense. HBO protected and made Abel and his team gullibles for the fights they would pay for with GGG. HBO wanted filler fights and KOs. The resume says it all.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post
                    Why pre fans who jumped onto GGG, jumped off GGG, and then went back to PAC?

                    the only difference imo is that PAC isn’t draining to make 135lbs? GGG should’ve been competing at 168 about 60 years ago

                    Same reason why some peole look 10,20 even 30 years younger than their age. GOOD GENETICS, with a healthy lifestyle.
                    This “jumping” stuff is in YOUR head.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

                      What does it matter if Canelo had Clenbuterolz. Canelo didn’t invent bovine worldwide given Clenbuterol. Margaret Goodman said eating any contaminated meat would “TECHNICALLY PRODUCE A POSITIVE RESULT.” WADA allowed 2NG in a 2019 revision. Before that no Clenbuterol was allowed, yet both USADA and VADA exonerated athletes worldwide whom had positive results, just like Francisco Vargas who had double Canelo’s amount and had an adverse finding closer to his fight. Industry didn’t care. Why? Because like I said, Canelo isn’t the antagonist anymore due to his alliance with Oscar/GBP. Canelo always had to acquire any animosity towards Oscar or GBP.

                      min 2021 WADA even revised their 2019 Clen list from 2ng NOW up to 5ng.

                      only an idiot, a complete idiot, wouldnt think that that WADA hasn’t been revising a solution for contaminated meat which was why they never gave it a threshold. With progressions and spectrometry analysis WADA has finally figured )with classified research) how to spot cheats. That’s why it now has a threshold.

                      GBP always knew that Clen thing with Canelo wasn’t problem as VaDa knew too. It was GBP benefiting for more time in the rematch. That’s all. Because of strict liability there was nothing GBP could do unless they gave K2 a significant amount and readjustment from the purses. GBP refused and that’s that.

                      The truth is that God favors WADA. That’s why Mexicans are allowed Clenbuterol now. “Oh no wait… that’s a joke innit.. but how is it joke?!” - Dumb Boxing fan
                      Simple fact is he got caught with a banned substance in his body and that's it and he's going up and down weights since the ggg fight

                      He got caught with a banned substance no matter how trivial or what excuse his career will always raise eyebrows especially when going up weights

                      And he's always had a pass whether it's scorecards filled out the second the fights get signed or unknowingly getting passes on drug tests

                      Boxing is a corrupt sport and cover ups and money makers go together my friend


                      Back to the first thing we started debating about ggg was comfortable at 160 so why do you hold such a grudge he didn't go up in weight when canelo was taking fighters to 155 scared to get in the mix with 160 champions for years on end

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