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  • #41
    Originally posted by Mike D View Post
    Crawford has too much range and skill for Shawn IMO. And Shawn doesn't have the power to gain Crawford's respect, nor find a way to test Crawford's possibly questionable chin. As the cliche goes, styles make fights, and I feel like Porter's style would be really good for TC.
    Mike that Gif still makes me laugh after years of seeing it! Thanks for the laugh brother
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    • #42
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      Crawford wins. Porter may have a few good moments, particularly if he can get to Crawford’s body. But I think Crawford will land the cleaner more effective punches and pull out a decision win. Let’s face it, even if Crawford should stop him, critics will just say Porter was Spence’s leftovers.
      How I see it right now. Crawford can really box. He’ll potshot, move, tie up and he will fight when necessary. At the least i’m expecting the first clear decision loss for Porter.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post

        Mike that Gif still makes me laugh after years of seeing it! Thanks for the laugh brother
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        • #44
          Originally posted by revelated View Post

          ...but, water isn't wet, bro. Sorry, you made Fists_of_Fury 's point for him - you agree that Crawford has a high chance of getting exposed.

          "Something" can be wet - a surface, etc. Made so by liquid (Water). But the water itself cannot be because it's not a surface.
          I guess we'll find out. I'm sure youll have a variety of excuses ready when Crawford beats Porter down though. Weird PBC shills...somehow enjoy getting pegged. Mind blowing

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          • #45
            Originally posted by HOF Hater View Post

            I guess we'll find out. I'm sure youll have a variety of excuses ready when Crawford beats Porter down though. Weird PBC shills...somehow enjoy getting pegged. Mind blowing
            You got the wrong one, brother.

            You can search for yourself.

            I'm on record, multiple times, saying that if Crawford can beat ANY of the PBC welterweights, clean and with no asterisks, he gets major credit from me and deserves a Spence fight.

            I say that because I know he can't do it.

            Either he gets stopped, loses close, wins close (which exposes him), or he gets a sketchy win like all of his others at 147. Frankly, I think he gets a sketchy win. I'm not fooled by his smoke and mirrors like a lot of you are.

            But I'm wanting him to prove me wrong, and I've been waiting since 2017.

            If he gets his hand raised, I'll say he got his hand raised, but if there's ANY BS behind that win...it's an asterisk and he will get no credit from me.

            That's called holding these guys accountable.

            Errol Spence beat this man clean as a whistle, took his belt and became only the second guy to ever drop him.

            Let's see Crawford do better, cleanly, and he will earn my respect.

            And before you go off about the win close - people call Crawford #1 P4P. Spence was never called that. So yes, the bar is way higher for Terence 'The Living Legend' Crawford.

            If you're #1P4P like you say you are, you should blow Shawn Porter out with ease. Ok, then go do it and anything less is you getting exposed as NOT P4P any damn thing, because P4P fighters don't struggle with Shawn Porter. Nobody would expect Canelo to struggle with Shawn Porter, all things equal.
            Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 07-25-2021, 09:27 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

              Crawford would dominate he's on another level from every other active welterweight including spence shame he's wasted his career
              Yes but his chin isn't, Porter can make things interesting, its a good fight hope it happens I wouldn't be surprised to see TC starch him, its a good solid test for TC.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by revelated View Post

                You got the wrong one, brother.

                You can search for yourself.

                I'm on record, multiple times, saying that if Crawford can beat ANY of the PBC welterweights, clean and with no asterisks, he gets major credit from me and deserves a Spence fight.

                I say that because I know he can't do it.

                Either he gets stopped, loses close, wins close (which exposes him), or he gets a sketchy win like all of his others at 147. Frankly, I think he gets a sketchy win. I'm not fooled by his smoke and mirrors like a lot of you are.

                But I'm wanting him to prove me wrong, and I've been waiting since 2017.

                If he gets his hand raised, I'll say he got his hand raised, but if there's ANY BS behind that win...it's an asterisk and he will get no credit from me.

                That's called holding these guys accountable.

                Errol Spence beat this man clean as a whistle, took his belt and became only the second guy to ever drop him.

                Let's see Crawford do better, cleanly, and he will earn my respect.

                And before you go off about the win close - people call Crawford #1 P4P. Spence was never called that. So yes, the bar is way higher for Terence 'The Living Legend' Crawford.

                If you're #1P4P like you say you are, you should blow Shawn Porter out with ease. Ok, then go do it and anything less is you getting exposed as NOT P4P any damn thing, because P4P fighters don't struggle with Shawn Porter. Nobody would expect Canelo to struggle with Shawn Porter, all things equal.
                I don't understand most of your post.

                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                I'm on record, multiple times, saying that if Crawford can beat ANY of the PBC welterweights, clean and with no asterisks, he gets major credit from me and deserves a Spence fight.
                Okay, cool. Me too. I actually think Crawford deserves Spence outright but I'd also like to see him face a Porter or Thurman before/after anyways.

                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                Either he gets stopped, loses close, wins close (which exposes him), or he gets a sketchy win like all of his others at 147. Frankly, I think he gets a sketchy win. I'm not fooled by his smoke and mirrors like a lot of you are.
                Hmmmm...are we talking about the same fighter? Terrence Crawford doesn't have 1 single "sketchy" win in his entire career let alone at 147.

                Originally posted by revelated View Post
                But I'm wanting him to prove me wrong, and I've been waiting since 2017.
                Me too, bro. Shame he's been boxed out the way he has. Crawford has been angling for fights with those guys for some time now.

                Spence and Thurman teased Crawford telling him he was "on the wrong side of the street"...don't know why that matters since Thurman and Spence pretend to think they're the best so beating little Crawford should be easy for them anyway ????

                We do know that Crawford and Top Rank offered Angel Garcia $3.5M purse with PPV backside for April, 2019 in MSG/Barclays. That would've been (and would still be) a career high purse for Danny Garcia. Danny turned the fight down and instead fought Granados for $1M flat on regular cable.

                To suggest Crawford hasn't wanted to fight any of PBC guys is laughable and ignorant. It's actually been the other way around in that PBC only fights in-house.
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                • #48
                  I think Porter will definitely bring a war to Crawford but Crawford boxes so well and most importantly adjusts very well. He needs these fights to start happening because hes not young anymore. I think he wins a decisive decision and gets Spence after he beats Manny.

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                  • #49
                    I got Crawford winning clearly. Porter comes right you which is a problem vs Crawford. Crawfords footwork is better than Spences. He won't have problems getting backed up.

                    Porter is a good welterweight but he's lost the 3 times he's stepped up Brook, Thurman and Spence and won 2 razor tight decisions Garcia and Ugas.
                    Last edited by MikeyMike100; 07-25-2021, 10:40 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by HOF Hater View Post
                      Hmmmm...are we talking about the same fighter? Terrence Crawford doesn't have 1 single "sketchy" win in his entire career let alone at 147.
                      I've covered this. Repeatedly.

                      You're a fan of him, so all you care about is his outcome.

                      I'm a fan of boxing, so I care about how you got it done.

                      Horn : Crawford faked a hand injury a week out and got caught when he was snapping pictures of ring girls a day after the claim with the allegedly injured hand, they asked for proof of the injury and he refused. Delayed the fight, threw off Horn's camp and travel timing.

                      End of the fight, Crawford windmills and completely whiffs three punches, ref jumps in, shades of Wilder/Washington. *asterisk

                      Benavidez
                      : a cripple was outboxing Crawford before his leg failed him. Crawford didn't beat him, his leg beat him. *asterisk

                      Khan
                      : everyone says Khan has a glass chin. Early in the fight, Crawford connects, Khan gets up and proceeds to win rounds pumping a jab into Crawford's face. Round 6 I believe, Crawford is frustrated, squares up and tosses a BLATANT low blow on Khan to stop a clinch attempt. *asterisk

                      Kavaliauskas
                      : Crawford gets repeatedly timed, then two-pieced, wobbled and dropped by a guy that the commentators can't even pronounce the name of, but Bradley and Ward, Crawford's own buddies, unanimously agree the ref should have called a knockdown. *asterisk

                      Brook
                      : Crawford drops four rounds straight to an unmotivated shell of a man who even while fighting scared damn near closed Crawford's eye with jabs. *asterisk


                      As far as your clearly blind claim about PBC,
                      you saw this guy go on DAZN and duck Porter. You heard him say "60-40 to me or NO FIGHT!!" about Spence, then say he isn't interested. You heard Keef expose that BoMac lied about $10 million, they never offered him anything.

                      But the worst offense, sir, is that Crawford re-signed twice with Top Rank, knowing the smoke was at PBC, only to have Arum, his own damn promoter, come out and admit that Crawford doesn't sell and he's a money loser.

                      I challenge you to point out anything about that was not fact.

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