Marchegiano's New Fan Guide

[Marchegiano]

Work In Progress.


Thanks to MikeyG for the suggestion. All bold text after this line is a link, info can be found behind the link.

Table of Context

Basic Styles

Major Sanctioning Bodies

Major Championships

Regionals

Commissions

Results

Scoring

Major Outlets

Rankings

Minor Championships


Additional thoughts:

I need to add to basically every category. That's my bad, I shouldn't have done this on a time crunch.

The links are to the posts directly. Check the URL. I'm not linking pages I am linking posts. Sometimes the forum brings me to the post it is meant to, sometimes it just takes me to the page. I think the only way to fix that may be for me to make each category its own thread. Which might be beneficial because I know there's plenty of fellas that don't agree with my take on things like Lineal so if I made Lineal a thread and had my info as the OP the link would go direct to my **** then all y'all's unresearched and half assed emotional nonsense can be under me....where it belongs. I'm playing, of course the purpose would be to give new fans easy access to info and discourse, opposing points of view, **** like that.

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Yeah I ain't reading all that s***

Lets make this thread more interesting, what's the largest girth of all the fake pen1ses you've made?

[War Room]

What a waste of time.

[MONGOOSE66]

There's a lot of new fans here and there's plenty of things said or referred to that may not make sense if all you've done was watch a few fights or some such. So, I'm gonna write up a little info for youse. A basic info guide I guess. Maybe others will jump in and add to it.


Boxer - Hit and don't be hit back
Puncher- Hit me I hit you back harder

Orthodox - Right handed
Southpaw - Lefthanded
Converted - Natural right hander fighting as a left or vice versa.



Major Sanctioning Bodies:
WBC - Green
WBA - Black
IBF - Red
WBO - Darker Red / Maroon

Major bodies and major titles are considered major because of cross recognition. The WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO all recognize one another as major bodies and so they are. The belts get trickier, being a major body does not give you the ability to create a recognized belt. The majors have to recognize the belts too. When you go to their rankings they list recognized titles outside of their org.

Major Titles:
WBC (nothing else, not the Silver, not Franchise, nadda. if it has a modifier to it and it's a WBC title it's not a major title)
WBA Super ( Regular, Gold, Emeritus, etc all are unrecognized)
IBF ( same as WBC, no one lists an IBF Interim as a champion because they do not hold a recognized title)
WBO ( Again, a WBO Interim is not a recognized champion)

Regionals are a bit more complicated. Each major body has a regional body, or a few, handle sub-world rankings and championships. NABF is the IBF's North American body. EBU is WBC's European body. What a regional title gets a boxer is automatic or forced ranking within the world ranks of the corresponding body. So if you're the EBU champion you are top 15 in the WBC world ratings as well.

Difference between a body and a commission is the body sets the optional rules for their fights, like 3 knockdowns equals a technical knockout. The commission is the government/law end of things. If both the body and the commission agree everything's good to go you've got yourself a fight. Athletic commissions rule over more than boxing, sanctioning bodies do not.



Outcomes:

What exactly is a technical knockout anyway? TKOs are when the fighter has taken enough damage for the ref to want to stop the fight and stop him from taking more damage even though he is not actually knocked out.

Knockout = Does not beat a 10 count. 10 count, not a 10 second timer, ref's digression matters

Unanimous Decision = All judges agreed who won

Draw = No winner, no titles exchange hands.

Disqualification = cheating fighter loses

Split Decision = 2 judges say X won and one went with Y

Majority Decision = 2 judges say X won but the last judge has it a draw.

Majority Draw = 1 judge says X won but 2 say it was a draw

Technical Decision = It means the losing fighter quit or his corner quit for him. On Boxrec you will see it as RTD. Retired Technical Decision.

No Contest = When a bout is stopped because of injury not caused by the boxing or some such similar surprise accident, maybe the building fell in, whatever, if there are enough rounds logged in and the pre-agreed rules allow for it the fight may go to the judges anyway, but, if there are not enough rounds finished the fight is declared a no contest, it's meant to be like the fight never happened.




Scoring:

Criteria-
Effective Punching - Is what it sounds like, you need to land your punches, and, better spots makes for better scoring.
Effective Aggression - Same, you need to be backing the other man into position or some such not just running your face into his fist
Generalship - Really just being aware of juxtaposition both between fighters and where they are in the ring.
Volume - Super self explanatory, it is the amount of punches landed.

Points-
All fighters start every round with 10 points

10 points goes to the winner of every round. The loser of the round gets points based on how bad they lost. If it was reasonably close it's 10 for the winner and 9 for the loser. If there was a knockdown or the round was very one-sided it's 10 for the winner and 8 for the loser. It is possible to get something like a 10-6 round but I have never seen that myself. Pretty much 10-8 is the lowest folks actually score.



Outlets:

Ring - The big dog of the magazine and website promotional media market.

TBRB - Trans National Boxing Ranking Board. When folks get wise to what Ring is they tend to go to TBRB.

CBZ - Cyber Boxing Zone. They were like the first fans to attempt a historical website. It's decent but don't take their history as biblical. It's well out of date because they are well old and don't update often. Once it was good research and it's not meaningless today, but, there's plenty that's just wrong on that site.

ESPN - A channel Bob Arum helped set up that still favors Bob Arum fighters.

DAZN - A cheap stream service aided by Eddie Hearn.

PBC - A show that is backed by Al Haymon


Ratings:

All four major bodies have official ratings and those ratings are the only ones that actually matter.

Ring/TBRB/ESPN, etc ratings are for promotion.

A body rating can force a mandatory fight, a promo rating can not.

Mandatories are what forces champions to defend against top ranked opponents.

Eliminators are how mandatories are established.

Regional belts force ranking in world ranks.

Voluntary defenses are when a champion makes extra fights around scheduled mandos. The body in control of the champion's title still has to agree and the contender still has to be world ranked but the champion does not have to make the fight.


Popular titles that don't matter:

Lineal - Not the title that goes back to Sullivan or pre-sanctioning body eras, not a sanctioning or promotional title either. Lineal is the most confused title in boxing. Lineal is, at this point, a nice long list of historical inaccuracies. Lineal is the title created in the 60s or 70s when the first time the sanctioning bodies split up recognition between multiple champions. Lineal is a simplifier, it's meant to be the title that goes back to pre-body era so that there can be one champion per division, but, has had plenty of body rules attached to it either by mistake, misunderstanding the past, or on purpose trying to make the title seem more attractive. Before bodies there was no ranking. Lineal is meant to be the pre-body title but to earn lineal in a vacant situation, as in there's no current lineal champion, folks will tell you the number one ranked fighter has to fight the number two. So, it's not historical but it is meant to be.

Ring - Gave birth to most the nonsense conflated with lineal. Today most people realize the Ring title isn't the lineal at least, getting them to recognize the lineal is not the traditional is another battle but the battle for Ring is over. It's just a promo title and these days basically everyone knows that.

WBC - Franchise -Created to be above the WBC title but lack WBC title's recognition. Silver- Meant to be below the WBC title, lacks recognition. Emeritus/Interim- Meant to be equal to the WBC title but lacks recognition.

WBA - Regular- Meant to be equal to the WBC,IBF, and WBO titles however it is the Super that shares the other bodies' recognition. Gold- Not even the WBA has written up official placement so it goes without saying none of the other 3 recognize that title. Emeritus and Interim- Meant to equal their Reg belt and in this case they do as the Reg is not recognized outside the WBA anymore than Emeritus or Interim is.

IBF - Interim- Unrecognized

WBO - Interim and Super are both unrecognized.


My old lady talking dirty so I'm out. I may come back and add, maybe someone else will. See youse.

Nice info, but fook all the belts and let “their resume” and “record” speak for itself. I KNOW “blastfemy”.

[REDEEMER]

My question is who are all these new fans on here that required this bundle of information ? You yourself have a hard time understanding things in boxing so it’s kind of funny you out up something anyone can look up a specific thing instead of going through a giant post filled with amounts of info already available to them if they want an answer .

[Marchegiano]

Yeah I ain't reading all that s***

Lets make this thread more interesting, what's the largest girth of all the fake pen1ses you've made?

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[Marchegiano]

Y'all ain't hard. Like even a little bit.

[Mushashi]

BIGPOPPAPUMP Pin this for newbies

[-Kev-]

Inb4 some asshat quotes the OP’s post because just making a post in the thread won’t suffice. We all need to make sure we know the poster is replying to the threadstarter specifically. Let’s make the page longer than the distance from here to the Sun. I want to scroll forever.

[MikeyG]

Thanks for doing something for this forum rather than endless arguing. Just an idea, maybe it would be clearer to divide original post into sections and in the first post have table of contents with links to specific posts with specific categories (I think I saw it somewhere around here). That could be more convenient for editing more information into it.