Comments Thread For: Hearn Doesn't Think Vaccine Passports Will Be Required Of Fans To Attend Joshua-Usyk

[Boxing-1013]

Why would most people want to take a largely rushed, experimental vaccine, for a virus that isn't fatal or problematic for virtually anyone who gets it, and when the vaccine doesn't even protect you against getting the virus? Lol

Yet you have simpletons out there doing the bidding of their masters and big pharma, demanding everyone gets vaxxed lol. What a ****** world we live in.

[dazzlertheboxer]

Without them public places are nothing more than super spreaders. Folks who want to gather en mass with other folks need to be vaccinated. Period.

Er no. Folks who want to gather en mass with other folks are free to make their own choice.

[Oldskoolg]

the UK infection rates are skyrocketing and they packed a stadium for the EURO 2020 finals (over 60k)....

Which I watched as well. Had I been in country I wouldn’t have gone under normal conditions due to the pyss heads but certainly wouldn’t have gone until enough peooor are vaccinated with both shots…all they yelling, spitting, sweating….no thanks

[Monty Fisto]

Why would most people want to take a largely rushed, experimental vaccine, for a virus that isn't fatal or problematic for virtually anyone who gets it, and when the vaccine doesn't even protect you against getting the virus? Lol

Yet you have simpletons out there doing the bidding of their masters and big pharma, demanding everyone gets vaxxed lol. What a ****** world we live in.

The average life expectancy in the US dropped 1.5 years in the US in 2020. How does that happen if the virus isn't fatal or problematic for 'virtually anyone'?

4 million people have died so far from Covid. Seems a little problematic, no?

In direct answer to your question: the reason people want to take the vaccine is that it hugely reduces your chances of developing serious symptoms from the virus. That's the self-interest reason. There's also a less self-interested reason, which is it's probably society's best shot at a return to some semblance of normality without a crushing burden on public health and totally screwing over health workers the world over.

Over 45,000 covid survivors in India have been infected with the 'black fungus' mucomycosis (standard treatment: cut your eye out) and this is most likely a woeful underestimate. This is the kind of thing that happens when a country has a runaway covid problem and not enough vaccine.

[YOU WILL LOSE]

vaccine passports, ya dont say?? - as if that wasnt in the plan in the first place

but thats "tin foil" doe

[baroidi]

The average life expectancy in the US dropped 1.5 years in the US in 2020. How does that happen if the virus isn't fatal or problematic for 'virtually anyone'?

4 million people have died so far from Covid. Seems a little problematic, no?

In direct answer to your question: the reason people want to take the vaccine is that it hugely reduces your chances of developing serious symptoms from the virus. That's the self-interest reason. There's also a less self-interested reason, which is it's probably society's best shot at a return to some semblance of normality without a crushing burden on public health and totally screwing over health workers the world over.

Over 45,000 covid survivors in India have been infected with the 'black fungus' mucomycosis (standard treatment: cut your eye out) and this is most likely a woeful underestimate. This is the kind of thing that happens when a country has a runaway covid problem and not enough vaccine.

Seeing the tragedy that happened in India, convinced me to take the vaccine. It was obvious that the Government of India was vastly under counting the deaths of ~400K, but there is a new report that the deaths are actually 10x that, which means over 4 millions deaths. There are now more studies done that people who recovered are suffering from what is called Long Covid, symptoms and damage to organs last for months and who knows how long. We all saw how bad Povetkin looked, he had to hospitalized twice before the rematch with Whyte.

[Oldskoolg]

The average life expectancy in the US dropped 1.5 years in the US in 2020. How does that happen if the virus isn't fatal or problematic for 'virtually anyone'?

4 million people have died so far from Covid. Seems a little problematic, no?

In direct answer to your question: the reason people want to take the vaccine is that it hugely reduces your chances of developing serious symptoms from the virus. That's the self-interest reason. There's also a less self-interested reason, which is it's probably society's best shot at a return to some semblance of normality without a crushing burden on public health and totally screwing over health workers the world over.

Over 45,000 covid survivors in India have been infected with the 'black fungus' mucomycosis (standard treatment: cut your eye out) and this is most likely a woeful underestimate. This is the kind of thing that happens when a country has a runaway covid problem and not enough vaccine.

this. Period……

[Boxing-1013]

The average life expectancy in the US dropped 1.5 years in the US in 2020. How does that happen if the virus isn't fatal or problematic for 'virtually anyone'?

4 million people have died so far from Covid. Seems a little problematic, no?

In direct answer to your question: the reason people want to take the vaccine is that it hugely reduces your chances of developing serious symptoms from the virus. That's the self-interest reason. There's also a less self-interested reason, which is it's probably society's best shot at a return to some semblance of normality without a crushing burden on public health and totally screwing over health workers the world over.

Over 45,000 covid survivors in India have been infected with the 'black fungus' mucomycosis (standard treatment: cut your eye out) and this is most likely a woeful underestimate. This is the kind of thing that happens when a country has a runaway covid problem and not enough vaccine.

I can't really explain my reasoning any better than I did in my initial comment; if you don't get it, you don't get it. Covid is essentially a bad flu. About 1 million people a year die from the flu. We shouldn't shut down the entire world for something like that.

If you want to get the vaccine, go ahead! No one is stopping you. Just don't be pissed that the vaccine sucks and doesn't really work, and then take that misplaced anger and direct it at those of us who are smart enough to not take a rushed, faulty vaccine pushed by greedy self-interested pharma companies and politicians, when we are largely in good health.

A few of those numbers you threw out are the work of a simpleton; anyone believing that garbage shouldn't be allowed to have a valid opinion in a society anyway. That people like you are allowed to actually have an opinion is a big part of why the world is where it is right now. Be better, or shut up.

[Monty Fisto]

I can't really explain my reasoning any better than I did in my initial comment; if you don't get it, you don't get it. Covid is essentially a bad flu. About 1 million people a year die from the flu. We shouldn't shut down the entire world for something like that.

If you want to get the vaccine, go ahead! No one is stopping you. Just don't be pissed that the vaccine sucks and doesn't really work, and then take that misplaced anger and direct it at those of us who are smart enough to not take a rushed, faulty vaccine pushed by greedy self-interested pharma companies and politicians, when we are largely in good health.

A few of those numbers you threw out are the work of a simpleton; anyone believing that garbage shouldn't be allowed to have a valid opinion in a society anyway. That people like you are allowed to actually have an opinion is a big part of why the world is where it is right now. Be better, or shut up.

A weak attempt to reframe the discussion, which was giving an answer as to why people would want to take the vaccine. I gave you an answer. Now you want to attempt to make it a discussion about lockdown measures. That's a different argument and I'll refrain from shifting to it.

Let's accept your argument that covid is essentially a bad flu. This makes it a serious killer. Do we vaccinate against normal flu in order to try and mitigate its effect on public health? We do. So why would we not do likewise with Covid?

Polio, measles, mumps, rubella. We vaccinate against all these, though they do not have mortality rates anywhere near 1%. It's really quite simple.

If you don't like my numbers, bad luck. They are robust, credible and I am quite happy to provide links to multiple credible bodies that will back them up.

[Boxing-1013]

A weak attempt to reframe the discussion, which was giving an answer as to why people would want to take the vaccine. I gave you an answer. Now you want to attempt to make it a discussion about lockdown measures. That's a different argument and I'll refrain from shifting to it.

Let's accept your argument that covid is essentially a bad flu. This makes it a serious killer. Do we vaccinate against normal flu in order to try and mitigate its effect on public health? We do. So why would we not do likewise with Covid?

Polio, measles, mumps, rubella. We vaccinate against all these, though they do not have mortality rates anywhere near 1%. It's really quite simple.

If you don't like my numbers, bad luck. They are robust, credible and I am quite happy to provide links to multiple credible bodies that will back them up.

If your point was that there is a reason why some people would want to take a vaccine, or specifically take the covid vaccine, then I wouldn't disagree. And I didn't say that no one would want to get a vaccine in my original post. For some people, taking a vaccine, even a largely rushed and experimental one, obviously could be a good decision.

Just as obviously, when a vaccine is rushed and experimental, and has already been shown to cause, at times, serious health issues, then taking that vaccine becomes a less intelligent thing to do. It is a risk/reward scenario, and always would depend on the severity and probability of getting the disease; and then comparing and contrasting that with the efficacy and safety of the vaccine.

1) this vaccine does not seem that effective - it doesn't even protected vaccinated people in many cases

2) this vaccine was rushed, and sped through clinical trials in record time

3) one vaccine, from Johnson and Johnson, has been shown to cause serious illness in its recipients. I would MUCH rather get covid than Guillain Barre Syndrome!!!!! You do understand things like that, I hope.

4) another vaccine, the AstraZeneca one, was linked to a rare blood clotting disorder.

5) A family member of mine surely had covid almost 2 years ago. I was around them many times in this month long timespan that they had the disease, and I did not catch it. Their significant other did not catch it. No one around them caught it to our knowledge.

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There are many people like me who are fairly young, and fairly healthy. We have been around this disease for almost 2 years and many of us, like myself, have either never had the disease, or, if we have had it, then we didn't even realize it as we had no real symptoms.

For many people, like myself, getting the a rushed, experimental vaccine, when the odds of contracting this virus are low, and the odds of having a damaging prognosis from the virus are very low, is a very poor decision.

For others, who are not quite as young, and not quite as healthy, they would have a decision to make as far as whether they would be more damaged by getting the vaccine and suffering side effects or by getting covid and suffering side effects.

I would encourage anyone out there to get themselves in better condition so that their own body and immune system can fight off an illness like covid. Instead of depending on dumping your body with rushed, unproven poison in an attempt to boost or trick your body and immune system.

Enjoy that vaccine though. Make sure you take it every 4 months!! Or is it 6? lol Someone's gotta pay big Pharma!