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    #21
    Usyk himself admits that he isn't as good as Fury.

    I also remember Usyk going life and death with an ancient version of Chisora, whereas Fury played with him like a cat and a ball of string.
    Last edited by removed; 07-21-2021, 07:59 AM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by denium
      Usyk himself admits that he isn't as good as Fury.

      I also remember Usyk going life and death with an ancient version of Chisora, whereas Fury played with him like a cat and a ball of string.
      If Fury fought Chisora now it would be more difficult , at least under Buddy he looks way more polished and in the Usyk and Parker fight where he should have possibly won brings a slight adjustments of working behind a jab , better punch selections as opposed to aimlessly walking in and so forth .it also comes down to conditioning for the Whyte , Usyk and Parker fights he was at his best physical condition .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-21-2021, 08:41 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by REDEEMER

        If Fury fought Chisora now it would be more difficult , at least under Buddy he looks way more polished and in the Usyk and Parker fight where he should have possibly won brings a slight adjustments of working behind a jab , better punch selections as opposed to aimlessly walking in and so forth .it also comes down to conditioning for the Whyte , Usyk and Parker fights he was at his best physical condition .
        Chisora was in great shape against Fury the second time, but he couldn't handle Fury's combination of size and skills.

        Usyk has skills but he's too small for the big boys.

        AJ in 8.

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          #24
          Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

          Ahhhh, “no it’s not”. It’s a lightweight vs a super middleweight.
          Usyk most recent fight: 217lbs
          Joshua most recent fight: 241 lbs

          There's plenty of reason to believe it will be even closer for this fight, but ignoring that, we have 28lbs difference between the numbers above. So false to your LW vs SMW comparison.

          And if weight disparities are so essential in HW boxing, you must have been really impressed by Joshua-Ruiz II, when Joshua overcame a 47 pound difference.

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            #25
            Originally posted by denium
            Usyk himself admits that he isn't as good as Fury.

            I also remember Usyk going life and death with an ancient version of Chisora, whereas Fury played with him like a cat and a ball of string.
            Usyk has achieved more in his boxing career than Joshua & Fury, his credentials are superior to both Joshua & Fury.

            Still I don't really think he beats ether of them.

            But once again, it is Joshua who is facing Usyk and not Tyson Fury. This is the second Olympic Champion Joshua has faced.

            Note: Tyson Fury really needs to make a defense of his titles, and then fight some actual top fighters. He has been a extremely poor champion thus far 'Apart from facing Wilder, he is facing fighters with a lack of credentials'.


            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-21-2021, 09:03 AM.

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              #26
              Joshua needs another reality check, Usysk would be hammered by Fury

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                #27
                Originally posted by thack
                Joshua needs another reality check, Usysk would be hammered by Fury
                This is a completely irrelevant post. It is not a reality check, if it has not happened.

                I have never ever seen one fighter, gain so much credit for beating fighters he has not or will not face.

                Anthony Joshua is facing Oleksandr Usyk, not Tyson Fury.

                Tyson Fury at elite level has only beaten Wladimir Kiltschko & Deontay Wilder, that is it.

                He has also never scored a legitimate knock out at elite level, or made any title defenses as of yet.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-21-2021, 09:11 AM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                  Usyk has achieved more in his boxing career than Joshua & Fury, his credentials are superior to both Joshua & Fury.

                  Still I don't really think he beats ether of them.

                  But once again, it is Joshua who is facing Usyk and not Tyson Fury. This is the second Olympic Champion Joshua has faced.

                  Note: Tyson Fury really needs to make a defense of his titles, and then fight some actual top fighters. He has been a extremely poor champion thus far 'Apart from facing Wilder, he is facing fighters with a lack of credentials'.

                  You might well be correct.

                  However Fury still beats Usyk, Joshua and everyone else.

                  Usyk has never beaten anyone as good as Wlad btw, not even close.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by greeneye99

                    You're soo Biased
                    Aj is fighting his mandatory
                    Smh
                    Look at AJ's last 5 title defense and compare them to Wilders last 5 opponents
                    Tell us who were the No hopers
                    I'm no Wilder fan but look whos Biased.
                    4 of rematch clauses last 6 opponents have been 38-41 year's old, shot & way past they're primes & In between he got ktfo by #15 Ruiz. Rematch clause still hasn't boxed a top 2 heavyweight.
                    Wilder is lined up to fight the widely regarded on every ranking system world number 1 for the 3rd time out of 5 & one of those was Brazeale that rematch clause took was it 8 rounds of hitting him with the kitchen sink that Wilder destroyed in 1.

                    All 3 have s#it resumes if without the other 2 names on it.

                    Aj even has rematch clauses for mandatories which is completely against what mandatories stand for. Pathetic.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by denium

                      You might well be correct.

                      However Fury still beats Usyk, Joshua and everyone else.

                      Usyk has never beaten anyone as good as Wlad btw, not even close.
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                      I don’t think anyone is denying the significance of Fury’s win, but the point is he hasn’t done anything outside of that beyond Wilder and hasn’t even entered the ring as a defending champion yet.

                      Fans like you need to stop giving him credit for what he hasn’t done. His team screwed up the AJ fight by mismanaging the Wilder rematch situation and Fury is already on record saying he won’t fight Usyk. Until he fights those fights, whether he wins or not is purely a matter of opinion. Call him a favourite if you like, but stating he wins as categorical fact is nonsense - far greater upsets happen in boxing all the time.


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