Comments Thread For: Canelo: For Me, Brian Castano Beat Jermell Charlo

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For the first time I disagree with you, I feel he's been given gift wins on score cards

It's fine if you disagree.

But name the fights in which he got a gift win thanks to the cards?

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Canelo also passed the hair follicle test.

Based on his character, his career history, and his track record of VADA testing I see nothing wrong with giving him the benefit of the doubt.

There's nothing to show that he is a walking PED factory like Big Baby Miller and Jean Pascal.

Again, you’re gonna need to do further research. The person who conducted the hair follicle test said that hair follicle testing for clen isn’t a reliable way to go about it and the range can differ based on how light the persons hair is. Based on his character and career history, it can also be determined that he’d do whatever he can to gain an edge. Whether is was insisting on a catchweight that benefitted him if he was the bigger man or insisting on a rehydration clause if he was the smaller man. Not to mention, his ability to make certain weights suddenly became a challenge once he got popped for clen. He spent years saying he needed to grown into 160 and now he suddenly says he doesn’t think he can make 160 anymore. There’s enough to be su****ious of him. Below is the quote from the person who did the hair follicle test.

“We initiated the test to be as comprehensive as possible but knowing it's very difficult, according to the experts," Bennett said. "It's a difficult process to be able to confirm whether there is clenbuterol in the hair follicles, but I talked to (SMRTL president and laboratory director) Dr. (Michael) Eichner and he said they'd run the test even though it is even more difficult to run on light-colored hair. But we sent them the samples and the tests came back negative."

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Again, you’re gonna need to do further research. The person who conducted the hair follicle test said that hair follicle testing for clen isn’t a reliable way to go about it and the range can differ based on how light the persons hair is. Based on his character and career history, it can also be determined that he’d do whatever he can to gain an edge. Whether is was insisting on a catchweight that benefitted him if he was the bigger man or insisting on a rehydration clause if he was the smaller man. Not to mention, his ability to make certain weights suddenly became a challenge once he got popped for clen. He spent years saying he needed to grown into 160 and now he suddenly says he doesn’t think he can make 160 anymore. There’s enough to be su****ious of him. Below is the quote from the person who did the hair follicle test.

“We initiated the test to be as comprehensive as possible but knowing it's very difficult, according to the experts," Bennett said. "It's a difficult process to be able to confirm whether there is clenbuterol in the hair follicles, but I talked to (SMRTL president and laboratory director) Dr. (Michael) Eichner and he said they'd run the test even though it is even more difficult to run on light-colored hair. But we sent them the samples and the tests came back negative."

Canelo willingly gave them the hair sample and it came back negative. That's a plus in his favor.

He never failed a drug test before the clenbuterol incident and he hasn't failed one since.

He beat Golovkin in the rematch while doing 24/7/365 VADA.

Catch weights have been part of the game forever. Canelo didn't invent them and was on the wrong side of one himself. It is what it is. To be consistent you would have to rip into Floyd, Pacquiao, and many other greats for this as well.

If you don't want to accept his explanation of having eaten meat in Mexico that's perfectly fine. But if this is the only thing you can hold against him then he has conducted himself pretty damn good I would say.

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Canelo willingly gave them the hair sample and it came back negative. That's a plus in his favor.

He never failed a drug test before the clenbuterol incident and he hasn't failed one since.

He beat Golovkin in the rematch while doing 24/7/365 VADA.

Catch weights have been part of the game forever. Canelo didn't invent them and was on the wrong side of one himself. It is what it is. To be consistent you would have to rip into Floyd, Pacquiao, and many other greats for this as well.

If you don't want to accept his explanation of having eaten meat in Mexico that's perfectly fine. But if this is the only thing you can hold against him then he has conducted himself pretty damn good I would say.

I don’t like catchweights not matter who does it but nobody has done them plus the rehydration clauses as many times as he has. As far as the clen, you really seem to want to believe it was an accident but it’d have to be way too coincidental that he happened to test positive the very first time vada went to test him in Mexico and it was the furthest out from a fight he had ever been tested. Pretty obvious he wasn’t planning on being tested at that point. As far as him “beating” ggg. He still fought ggg within months of testing positive. Once you use banned substances to enhance your training and durability, the effects of that last well beyond the amount of time that they remain in your system. Look, if you consider him to be everything that’s right about the sport than cool. I on the other hand see plenty of negative. Aside from the positive test and him quietly discontinuing vada 24/7 instead of being an advocate for all boxers to the same the way donaire has, the amount of times he’s used his A side status to gain an advantage with weight clauses, the favoritism and absurd scorecards he’s received from judges as the A side, his fit when the wbc stripped him for refusing to face his mandatory ggg which eventually resulted in the creation of their ridiculous franchise title are all things I think are bad for the sport.

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Which is precisely the point that I said you were making. Why do you feel that Canelo HAS to regard all people the same? So what if he likes his fellow Latinos? What can anyone conclude from that? That he's racist somehow?

He doesn’t have to give everyone the same treatment and that’s his prerogative if he likes his fellow Latinos. I already established a conclusion that doesn’t portray Canelo as being racist.

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I don’t like catchweights not matter who does it but nobody has done them plus the rehydration clauses as many times as he has. As far as the clen, you really seem to want to believe it was an accident but it’d have to be way too coincidental that he happened to test positive the very first time vada went to test him in Mexico and it was the furthest out from a fight he had ever been tested. Pretty obvious he wasn’t planning on being tested at that point. As far as him “beating” ggg. He still fought ggg within months of testing positive. Once you use banned substances to enhance your training and durability, the effects of that last well beyond the amount of time that they remain in your system. Look, if you consider him to be everything that’s right about the sport than cool. I on the other hand see plenty of negative. Aside from the positive test and him quietly discontinuing vada 24/7 instead of being an advocate for all boxers to the same the way donaire has, the amount of times he’s used his A side status to gain an advantage with weight clauses, the favoritism and absurd scorecards he’s received from judges as the A side, his fit when the wbc stripped him for refusing to face his mandatory ggg which eventually resulted in the creation of their ridiculous franchise title are all things I think are bad for the sport.

Lol what a hater. All that just to say you are butt hurt over charlo losing to a low level fighter.

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Again, you’re gonna need to do further research. The person who conducted the hair follicle test said that hair follicle testing for clen isn’t a reliable way to go about it and the range can differ based on how light the persons hair is. Based on his character and career history, it can also be determined that he’d do whatever he can to gain an edge. Whether is was insisting on a catchweight that benefitted him if he was the bigger man or insisting on a rehydration clause if he was the smaller man. Not to mention, his ability to make certain weights suddenly became a challenge once he got popped for clen. He spent years saying he needed to grown into 160 and now he suddenly says he doesn’t think he can make 160 anymore. There’s enough to be su****ious of him. Below is the quote from the person who did the hair follicle test.

“We initiated the test to be as comprehensive as possible but knowing it's very difficult, according to the experts," Bennett said. "It's a difficult process to be able to confirm whether there is clenbuterol in the hair follicles, but I talked to (SMRTL president and laboratory director) Dr. (Michael) Eichner and he said they'd run the test even though it is even more difficult to run on light-colored hair. But we sent them the samples and the tests came back negative."

Didn’t the charlos evade vada testing inspectors in the past? Explain.

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Didn’t the charlos evade vada testing inspectors in the past? Explain.

I don’t have to explain anything because I’ve never defended it. We’re not the same. I don’t have an issue with saying Charlo got lucky to get a draw vs Castano. Unlike you canelo groupies who are handcuffed by your obsessive love which makes you feel obligated to defend the ridiculous scorecards he gets, feel obligated to defend his use of banned substances, I don’t care enough about any fighter to do that. If they deserved to lose, that’s what it is. If they cheated, that’s what it is. It’s only you bozos who like to pretend you’re their personal lawyers and must defend their honor. You’re so emotionally involved that you felt required to respond to me twice in a row on here despite me not even talking to you.

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I don’t have to explain anything because I’ve never defended it. We’re not the same. I don’t have an issue with saying Charlo got lucky to get a draw vs Castano. Unlike you canelo groupies who are handcuffed by your obsessive love which makes you feel obligated to defend the ridiculous scorecards he gets, feel obligated to defend his use of banned substances, I don’t care enough about any fighter to do that. If they deserved to lose, that’s what it is. If they cheated, that’s what it is. It’s only you bozos who like to pretend you’re their personal lawyers and must defend their honor. You’re so emotionally involved that you felt required to respond to me twice in a row on here despite me not even talking to you.

Stop crying already. Beta Male.

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Stop crying already. Beta Male.

that fact that you use the word beta as part of your regular convo makes you a beta. That Combined with the fact that you can’t stay off my d1ck & feel the need to continually defend a man you don’t even know.