Comments Thread For: Canelo: For Me, Brian Castano Beat Jermell Charlo

[Walexhris]

Lol. One scorecard doesn’t define a fight. If you want to define a fight with ridiculous scorecards or robberies then you bring up cards like Lara vs Williams. So had it been 116-112 or 115-113 from that judge what would’ve been the outcome? The same result.. hence two other judges alleviate the decision. 3 judges

Well the focus is ridiculous score cards, not the entire fight

[Thuglife Nelo]

Well the focus is ridiculous score cards, not the entire fight

No. The focus is one scorecard; 117-111. And again, I said Williams vs Lara is what a “robbery” is.

• HBO's Harold Lederman scored the bout 117-111 in favor of Lara.
• CompuBox Punchstats.
• Following the bout the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board conducted a full review with all three judges and although they did not find any evidence of fraud or intentional wrongdoing, they did suspend all three judges indefinitely pending additional training. [4]

[Walexhris]

Fo

Canelo popped for a small amount of Clen that is now legal, an amount that was consistent with his explanation of eating tainted meat in Mexico.

He also just got done doing VADA testing for 3 training camps in 5 months. It's clear that the man is kicking ass while clean.

No active fighter has a better resume in the sport except for Pacquiao. Which is proof that he is challenging himself more than anybody else currently.

He has never been given a gift win on the cards when he didn't earn it or when the fight wasn't legitimately close.

And win or lose he continues to learn and improve as a fighter after every fight. Passing on what he can to the fighters in his gym.

Canelo is the face of boxing and he is an exemplary one.

For the first time I disagree with you, I feel he's been given gift wins on score cards

[Walexhris]

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No. The focus is one scorecard; 117-111. And again, I said Williams vs Lara is what a “robbery” is.

• HBO's Harold Lederman scored the bout 117-111 in favor of Lara.
• CompuBox Punchstats.
• Following the bout the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board conducted a full review with all three judges and although they did not find any evidence of fraud or intentional wrongdoing, they did suspend all three judges indefinitely pending additional training. [4]

Again no one is saying your assessment is wrong, however.... the focus is ridiculous score cards

[Walexhris]

That’s your opinion considering not all blacks have that same mindset. I only call it as I see it which is obvious. Tell me something, when Spence beats Pacquiao, you think Canelo is gonna give him props via a social media outlet? Yeah didn’t think so either. And to add to your opinion, there are blacks who have given Canelo credit and acknowledged him as one of the better fighters in current boxing generation so let’s not play the race card here

Bro......he doesn't have to

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Canelo popped for a small amount of Clen that is now legal, an amount that was consistent with his explanation of eating tainted meat in Mexico.

He also just got done doing VADA testing for 3 training camps in 5 months. It's clear that the man is kicking ass while clean.

No active fighter has a better resume in the sport except for Pacquiao. Which is proof that he is challenging himself more than anybody else currently.

He has never been given a gift win on the cards when he didn't earn it or when the fight wasn't legitimately close.

And win or lose he continues to learn and improve as a fighter after every fight. Passing on what he can to the fighters in his gym.

Canelo is the face of boxing and he is an exemplary one.

you are aware that the percentage of clen is irrelevant because unless he was tested within 5 days of taking it, only trace amounts would show up. So that by no means absolved him. It’s just that the agencies got tired of all of these athletes in Mexico and China claiming tainted beef and there was no way to prove otherwise. It’s a built in excuse to cheat. If canelo was really about clean boxing, he’d be an example and would’ve stuck with vada 24/7 instead of quietly quitting it and going through the weak testing only when he has a fight. There are things that are good about him but he’s definitely a symbol of a lot that is wrong with the sport including the entitlement he’s received aside from cheating.

[Thuglife Nelo]

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Again no one is saying your assessment is wrong, however.... the focus is ridiculous score cards

No. You said “cards” as in plural. One card doesn’t define the fight. A judge will favor one guy even the doesn’t have to be wide. Unlesss you think Cheatham was bad too? The focus is 117-111. One judge. Could’ve been 115-113… same end result

[Walexhris]

No. You said “cards” as in plural. One card doesn’t define the fight. A judge will favor one guy even the doesn’t have to be wide. Unlesss you think Cheatham was bad too? The focus is 117-111. One judge. Could’ve been 115-113… same end result

Bro I'm referring to ridiculous score cards in their entirety

[Thuglife Nelo]

Bro I'm referring to ridiculous score cards in their entirety

So you're upset that Castano didnt get the win?

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you are aware that the percentage of clen is irrelevant because unless he was tested within 5 days of taking it, only trace amounts would show up. So that by no means absolved him. It’s just that the agencies got tired of all of these athletes in Mexico and China claiming tainted beef and there was no way to prove otherwise. It’s a built in excuse to cheat. If canelo was really about clean boxing, he’d be an example and would’ve stuck with vada 24/7 instead of quietly quitting it and going through the weak testing only when he has a fight. There are things that are good about him but he’s definitely a symbol of a lot that is wrong with the sport including the entitlement he’s received aside from cheating.

Canelo also passed the hair follicle test.

Based on his character, his career history, and his track record of VADA testing I see nothing wrong with giving him the benefit of the doubt.

There's nothing to show that he is a walking PED factory like Big Baby Miller and Jean Pascal.