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  • elveiel
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    #21
    Originally posted by SturmRules
    If somehow rahman beats vitali everyone will call him the real champ yet people say vitali isnt sad when hate for a fighter plays a role in stuff liek this
    Everyone knows Vitali is the real champ but shouldnt really say it because its disrespectful to the other champs. I've never heard anyone say any of the other guys are the genuine champ!

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    • Prince Harry
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      #22
      weve come a long way here people. we actually recognize vitali as the champ..

      lets go tell it on the mountain!

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      • bigdlb12
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        #23
        it wont happen, only if an american fighter kick the SH!+ out of Sturm , then it will happen,

        just playing

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        • AintGottaClue
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          #24
          Originally posted by bigdlb12
          it wont happen, only if an american fighter kick the SH!+ out of Sturm , then it will happen,

          just playing
          i know your joking but what does an american fighter beating sturm have to do with vitali?

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          • bigdlb12
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            #25
            Originally posted by SturmRules
            i know your joking but what does an american fighter beating sturm have to do with vitali?
            what you said

            "If somehow rahman beats vitali everyone will call him the real champ yet people say vitali isnt sad when hate for a fighter plays a role in stuff liek this"

            they would then call out the name of a real champ, unlike sturm

            kinda like hate for sturm

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            • Run
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              #26
              Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
              Who says Vitali isn't the real champ? I want to know who they think the real champ is..
              I am in no way defending John Ruiz because I like him:.....

              but he has beat opposition 50x the caliber Vitali has.

              Some of the people Jane beat, I think would K.O. Vitali easily.

              Vitali has yet to prove anything. Losing to Lewis was

              unimpressive, and I had him losing on the cards at the time of the

              stoppage. Either that, or Lewis would have K.O.'d him in the

              later rounds. (his only claim to fame).



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              • AintGottaClue
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                #27
                Originally posted by Runw/knives
                I am in no way defending John Ruiz because I like him:.....

                but he has beat opposition 50x the caliber Vitali has.

                Some of the people Jane beat, I think would K.O. Vitali easily.

                Vitali has yet to prove anything. Losing to Lewis was

                unimpressive, and I had him losing on the cards at the time of the

                stoppage. Either that, or Lewis would have K.O.'d him in the

                later rounds. (his only claim to fame).

                that was good almost thought u were serious for a sec

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                • Run
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SturmRules
                  that was good almost thought u were serious for a sec
                  Which part?

                  The opposition....because I was.

                  however;

                  I am in no way saying Jane is the Champ.

                  I recognize that Vitali is, its just that a case could be made

                  for huggy bear. thats all.

                  Look at the names of people Ruiz beat on paper. Its amazing.

                  (I suppose in this weak HW era that is).



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                  • MWCOFSU
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                    If Rahman wins, will their be a rematch?
                    do you remember how Rahman acted after he KOed Lennox. He was running in every direction to avoid a rematch.
                    I remember being so excited after Rahman starched Lewis. But I lost all respect for him after Lewis had to basically threaten to sue if he didnt honor the rematch clause.

                    IF (yea i said IF) Rahman wins, he'll have King to make all his excuses and avoid Vitali like the plague.

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                    • hollister
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Slipx
                      if lennox were to train his ass off and come back in near-prime condition, i think he would have a good chance at winning the fight. vitali cuts very easily, he could probably get the fight stopped on cuts and rob vitali
                      If lennox trained himself down to 245 lbs. and had a couple of tuneup fights, he would be as good as he ever was, IMO. He was actually much better to me in the last part of his career than he was in the first part. To me, the only thing that made the difference with VK was that he hadn't trained properly, and that, coupled with the fact that he fought someone that was taller than he was, and didn't go into survival mode when they got hit made the fight so rough. If either of them had actually boxed, rather than brawl, I think it would have been a very different fight.

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