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  • #71
    Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post

    I mean, no-one can really argue this.
    Fury's comeback was accelerated by Wilder. Seferi, Pianeta and then Wilder for a World Title shot!? What a gift.
    Also, each time Fury fought Wilder he always had two interim or tuneup fights in between. You've stated the earlier ones; Then there was Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin before their rematch.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

      What was Wilder supposed to do? In 2018 Anthony Joshua made it very plain and clear that he was not interested and wanted no parts of Deontay Wilder; Even after Deontay accepted his $15M flat-fee, no guarantee and fighting on foreign soil. Then Fury requested a fight with Wilder and then Deontay threw him a lifeline.

      Just ask yourself what would have happened if Wilder would have said no? There wouldn't have been no Joshua/Wilder fight. So this fight was more like a consolation prize to boxing fans. Wilder was trying to give the fans the fights that they wanted to see.

      Which is why earlier in that year he fought Luis Ortiz. While Joshua was fighting his mandatories.
      Dude, I was literally just agreeing with your points about Wilder gifting Fury a comeback - but all this BS about Joshua ducking Wilder...are you kidding me???

      Wilder has ADMITTED he ducked Joshua to fight Fury, not the other way around. Its now irrefutable.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

        Also, each time Fury fought Wilder he always had two interim or tuneup fights in between. You've stated the earlier ones; Then there was Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin before their rematch.
        I don't think anyone can deny that Fury's resume isn't what he believes it to be. His career has been defined by a boring but one sided victory over Klitschko and then drawing with, and beating Wilder. Then again, Wilder's resume is utter dog **** too.
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        • #74
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          Then where the Hell is he? Why he did cancel, forefeit and quit the the trilogy fight? Why is he hiding and on the run from Deontay Wilder? If he could stand withstand all of this pressure then we would be having the trilogy bout on Saturday now wouldn't we?

          You might as well face it; Fury is a certified, bona fide and qualified nutjob. He is never stepping foot back in a ring with Deontay Wilder again. He is feigning a fake COVID illness because he is a broken fighter who is mentally weak. He is another Roberto Duran after the Brawl in Montreal fight with Sugar Ray Leonard.

          Mate! I tried telling you that Fury was a fraud and a loser! Dillian Whyte a fellow Brit has stated that Fury has fucked up the Heavyweight division with all these damn shenanigans and antics that he's pulling. He believes he's a fraud too who has gullible boxing fans like yourself fooled.
          It's well documented fury is a nutjob, I'm not denying that, but there is no proof he's scared of the third fight, that's your opinion and until a date gets confirmed which seems to be early October and they actually get in the ring again u can't sit on this forum talking like u already know what's happened. Whyte is just as much of a head case as fury btw so I'm not sure why you're taking his words for gospel, he's just mad because he got frozen out again after he ducked a rematch with joshua

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          • #75
            No one can deny that Wilder chose Fury because he thought him easily beatable. After Fury announced he'd be moving on with the AJ fight, Wilder admitted that he ducked AJ to fight Tyson..and at the time, it looked like the smart bet. The thing is, I dont think it's a cyclical thing, where A can beat B, but not C and B can beat C, That happens, but Idk if Wilder could beat either man, to be honest bc AJ is a much more skilled fighter than Wilder, who gives him more credit than Fury. Even after his sound defeat. Of course you'll have ppl saying Fury is ducking Wilder, but its not Fury who needs more work, if anything hes doing Wilder a favor, AND Wilder should have been prepping for the rematch, and fixing the holes in his game starting on Feb 23rd, 2020, but he did not. Look at the 12th round of the first fight; Wilder CAN knock down Fury, and he has a punchers chance but that cannon of a right was proven to be fallible. I hope for his sake hes learned how to fight defensively. I think Wilders philosophy of boxing has a bit of a simplistic approach and concentrates only on offense. Thats the difference between a good fighter and a great one. All the greats had or have great defense that sets up an offense. Wilder is like Jake Paul in that sense.. Or James Toney when he faced Randy Couture: he said "Idc about 'martial arts', you put any man in front of me and I can knock him out". We saw how that worked.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

              I believe those 2 comeback fights fury had were meant to lull wilder into a false sense of security, he didn't wanna take on any big name so the fight could be made with wilder easier than if he fought someone like Whyte or povetkin, in my opinion it was all a trap and wilder fell straight into it
              There's no doubt Fury was always gonna head in Wilders direction first before going for AJ. I expected him to have more comeback fights than he did but he'd never have been in a tough fight as Frank Warren just doesn't match his fighters that way. Wilders team who pick his fights saw an overweight guy who'd been inactive then only 2 comeback fights against stiffs and also a fighter who was going to be coming on to their network which is a factor as its the Pbc we're talking about who only take in house fights. And yet they fought a non Pbc fighter. You have to ask why. They saw a clear cherry pick. And fury basically said I don't need no more tune ups this guy is nothing lol.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

                What was Wilder supposed to do?
                Take the undisputed fight for MORE money than he did with Fury. You know the "Speak it, don't believe it, ran away from it" quotes. Instead of cherry picking Fury like you and John Fury claimed.
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                • #78
                  A Trainer wouldn't DARE stop a Wilder fight now. Right?
                  Before the Pandemic I seen it as Fury (having) Wilder's "number." But..... everything has been mixed SO MUCH since then (now).
                  Fury "LIE" Arum/ESPN *****shared in.
                  Fury is champ now of course but.... he WASN'T LINEAL AT ALL GOING INTO WILDER 1 AND WILDER 2.
                  DUMB anyone who sees that otherwise.
                  Last edited by Bill Hodge; 07-20-2021, 05:47 AM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                    He was out the ring for just over two and a half years before his first comeback fight. But sometimes people bend the facts a little instead of keeping it real.
                    That's a lot of bending over! No bueno!

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by JDBarrett View Post
                      No one can deny that Wilder chose Fury because he thought him easily beatable.
                      That's not how I remember it. Josh and Wilder couldn't come to terms easily and Fury popped up and said he wanted that fight and it was very easy to make. To say "there is no denying" what someone's thought process was is kind of ridiculous. It's your opinion that you are trying to make into fact based on false history.

                      Also, I've never heard anyone say until this article that their fighter was cherry picked. Very weird.

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