Who does better against Roy Jones at 154lb: Floyd or Manny?

[GrandpaBernard]

I think Manny does better because he finds a way to get inside of Roy's reach. Floyd prefers to counter from the outside, he would lose that battle all day. Even if he gets inside he is outclassed by Jones' speed and reflexes. Manny also throw more punches, and that's what you need to do against Jones. You can't just wait and pick your spots, you have to keep him off balance and press him. Try to get him on the ropes. Neither Manny or Floyd can win in the middle of the ring, and only Manny would have the skillset to get Jones to the ropes.

manny isn’t going to make his way in and smother Roy along the ropes

manny can’t cut the ring off

Floyd was flossing on manny

this time with Roy the counters are bombs that put the Philippines out

rip manny

[GrandpaBernard]

A natural featherweight and natural lightweight vs a guy who started his career at middleweight

Okay

Lmk when you do your ray leonard and Roberto Duran vs Evander holyfield at cruiserweight thread

Yep dudes with the ****** h2h’s

[GhostofDempsey]

manny isn’t going to make his way in and smother Roy along the ropes

manny can’t cut the ring off

Floyd was flossing on manny

this time with Roy the counters are bombs that put the Philippines out

rip manny

Comparing a one-armed Manny in the Floyd fight to a clash with Jones is apples and oranges. The mythical match ups presented here are assuming we are taking each man at his best. Jones only had about 12 fights at 154 and was not at all close to his prime. Floyd is a runner and a clincher, throws 35 punches per round and prefers fighting from the outside. Jones was superior to him in reach, speed, reflexes, power, and footwork. Floyd would get worked from the outside and would be too scared to attempt the inside. Jones had a lethal uppercut.

[GrandpaBernard]

Comparing a one-armed Manny in the Floyd fight to a clash with Jones is apples and oranges. The mythical match ups presented here are assuming we are taking each man at his best. Jones only had about 12 fights at 154 and was not at all close to his prime. Floyd is a runner and a clincher, throws 35 punches per round and prefers fighting from the outside. Jones was superior to him in reach, speed, reflexes, power, and footwork. Floyd would get worked from the outside and would be too scared to attempt the inside. Jones had a lethal uppercut.

“Healthy” manny was struggling to cut off hurt bad Cotto

manny is boxer-brawler who applies pressure

but lacks many pressure fighter qualities: cutting off dancers, a consistent body attack, inside fighting game, etc

[djtmal]

“Healthy” manny was struggling to cut off hurt bad Cotto

manny is boxer-brawler who applies pressure

but lacks many pressure fighter qualities: cutting off dancers, a consistent body attack, inside fighting game, etc

Floyd lacks heart

[GrandpaBernard]

Floyd lacks heart

Okay dorktmal

[LeOoze]

Floyd lacks heart

how does he lack heart when he won every fight

[Roadblock]

Roy would be a skeleton at 154, go look at Oscar Manny, that's how Roy would be at 154 a dehydrated 1/2 fighter where both Manny and Floyd would beat him.

If they were all the same weight and healthy Floyd could get a UD maybe, and Mannys style would get him put to sleep because of Roys one-shot power.

Weight can totally change a fight when they are all greats it's a huge factor, the best fighting the best a straw can break the Camels back.

[Left Hook Tua]

“Healthy” manny was struggling to cut off hurt bad Cotto

manny is boxer-brawler who applies pressure

but lacks many pressure fighter qualities: cutting off dancers, a consistent body attack, inside fighting game, etc

He can fight on the inside

And his body attack is deadly

Almost every guy he's fought he hurt to the body

Thurman, morales 1, clottey, etc.

But dummy forgets to go back to it


He's excellent outside and going in and out and he's excellent at exchanges mid range

I understand why he does work on his inside game

But I dunno why he never cuts off the ring

[djtmal]

how does he lack heart when he won every fight

he used more brains than heart