Who did JMM beat? his notable win?

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  • catalinul
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    #41
    Originally posted by shogunn
    thats the thing, he lost to pacquaio and John. Those arent wins no matter how you look at it.


    Casamayor was past his prime, Juan Diaz is severely overrated, and he couldnt just put barrera away, who even managed to KD him.
    Wel if you consider he lost to John and Pac you can't say he was knocked down by Barrera.

    Juan Diaz ain't or ever was overrated.He never was in p4p talks altough he hwas a great resume.

    And it's not like Marquez is young or was young when he fought these guys moving up in weight.

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    • shogunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by catalinul
      Wel if you consider he lost to John and Pac you can't say he was knocked down by Barrera.

      Juan Diaz ain't or ever was overrated.He never was in p4p talks altough he hwas a great resume.

      And it's not like Marquez is young or was young when he fought these guys moving up in weight.
      well, he was knocked down by Barrera. Is this another denial by his fans.

      After JMM beat Juan Diaz, Diaz was some how praised into this warrior. I dont want to search my posts, someone on this forum said he was a young, spartan, bred type boxer, just to make the win on JMMs resume look that good. It was brought up to make the Juan Diaz win 10x better than David Diaz, but theyre not worlds apart. But after maliganaggi, the win now looks very overrrated.

      And what does that matter if Marquez is young or not? does he get more credit just because he's a little older? since he had close fights with John and Manny those are considered wins just because of his age?

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      • catalinul
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        #43
        What I'm saying is if he wasn't called down he wasn't down with Barrera.Should have but wasn't.Maybe he should have got the nod in some fights but he didn't.

        I considered Diaz just as good before or after Marquez beat him.His resume speaks for itself at the age of 25 or 26.No,he's not world apart from David Diaz but he is better and David is a good fighter himself.
        It matters that he's old since people bring up Casamayor was shot,Barrera was shot,etc.

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        • baCCaT
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          #44
          a win over PBF will definitely boost JMMs cred.

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          • trickshot
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            #45
            Originally posted by pelonxsoldier28
            you're as blind as them judges. live with it? i don't take this stuff personal, but it's apparent you do, and are hurt because someone talked down about your precious pacman. it's evident due to the nature of the title of this thread.
            hurt? yeah ok. my thread hurts. the truth hurts and jmm fan boys are in denial.

            JMM has no notable wins. He is Overrated = Fact

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            • shogunn
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              #46
              Originally posted by catalinul
              What I'm saying is if he wasn't called down he wasn't down with Barrera.Should have but wasn't.Maybe he should have got the nod in some fights but he didn't.

              I considered Diaz just as good before or after Marquez beat him.His resume speaks for itself at the age of 25 or 26.No,he's not world apart from David Diaz but he is better and David is a good fighter himself.
              It matters that he's old since people bring up Casamayor was shot,Barrera was shot,etc.
              I saw Barrera punch JMM and he went down, thats all it was for me.

              J Diaz was a good win, but still overrated imo. if Manny isnt given credit for Morales, Barrera, Hatton, or any of his fights, because they're old, shot, etc, I just dont see how J Diaz is given all the credit for in teh world. JMM being old doesnt get any credit from me. This is his boxing prime.

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              • JM1
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                #47
                barrera, casamayor and diaz were good wins

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                  #48
                  His greatest fights are his draw and a loss to Pac. His greatest/notable win is probably against Casamayor.

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                  • catalinul
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by shogunn
                    I saw Barrera punch JMM and he went down, thats all it was for me.

                    J Diaz was a good win, but still overrated imo. if Manny isnt given credit for Morales, Barrera, Hatton, or any of his fights, because they're old, shot, etc, I just dont see how J Diaz is given all the credit for in teh world. JMM being old doesnt get any credit from me. This is his boxing prime.
                    I can say I saw him beat Pacquiao and John and that's it for me.He didn't get the decisions just like he wasn't ruled down.

                    O give Manny plenty of credit for Barrera,Morales,Hatton,etc just like I give Marquez for Casamayor,Diaz,etc.

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                    • trickshot
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by shogunn
                      this thread has alot of merit.

                      Lets be real, JMMs best on his resume is losing to Manny. and people want to call him the #1 P4P fighter over Manny? based on waht? Manny can exclude his win over JMM and he still has other great notable fights. JMM fans are in line with the holocaust deniers. They refuse to believe he lost to Chris John, and mark up 2 wins against Manny. In reality, he lost both fights, and benefited from a ref on a scoring ****up in the first fight with Manny.


                      If idiots are calling Manny's resume a bunch of old weight drained shot fighters, then you can easily say do the same with JMM, and argue he doesnt have legitimate wins against top fighters. Its funny how Juan Diaz was spoken of as a young spartan, hungry warrior just to padd JMMs resume. After the Maliganni match the win now looks like ****. Barrera and casamayor were past prime against JMM, and Barrera gave him fits, KD'd him, but he's given full credit for it.

                      but somehow Morales 2x, A much younger version of Barrera, Hatton dont mean **** on Mannys resume? wtf
                      very true...jmm fans are in denial.

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