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  • -Kev-
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    #1

    How is boxing still alive?

    Sometimes I think about how interesting it is that boxing is still alive with all of its issues.

    1. Too many promoters, leads to top fighters being segregated and split among promoters/networks and apps. This gives us the eternal issue of top fighters not fighting eachother.

    2. Too many belts. This leads to multiple champions, and then not all the title holders are even good.

    3. Major title’s (WBC, IBF, etc) top 10 rankings are littered with fighters who are no match for good or elite fighters. And other obscure names of boxing that block good fights from happening due to being a mandatory. Major title’s top 10 rankings are usually not a good representation of who are really the top guys in the division. And these sanctioning bodies don’t even follow their own rules and policies a lot of times. They are constantly being taken to court by boxers.

    4. Boxing usually has very little advertisement. Boxing doesn’t get the love NFL, MLB, and NBA get in the US and Canada.

    5. Boxing is outdated. While all other major sports have features like challenging wrong calls by refs/umpires; boxing still hasn’t gotten the memo. If a ref calls a KD a slip, it’s a slip. If the ref calls a slip a KD, it’s a KD. No watching instant replays and overturning bad calls. Allow fighters to challenge calls with instant replays like other sports.

    6. ******, outdated, and confusing scoring model. It should be 1 point for the winner and 0 points for the loser. And extra 1 point for KD’s. The 10-9 BS is the second main culprit of bad decisions. With incompetent or corrupted judging being the main issue.
  • QueensburyRules
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    #2
    - -Boxing fans fleeing for more fairly officiated sports including their main comp, UFC that sold for what, $4 bil just a few years back making Dana a billionaire still in charge of the nuts and bolts. Boxing is only alive because of a precious handful of stars(Manny/Canelo) while circling the clogged up drain of American runner/stinkers for years now.

    See the history of Euro feudal kingdoms for the working model of boxing...

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #3
      its not really alive to be honest, i mean the sport is never going to completely end but interest in it has never been lower, most people know canelo and golovkin (partly cause he fought canelo) as foreign fighters and thats about it. noones interested in watching fights where there is always a 1/10 favourite.

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      • Willy Wanker
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        #4
        Yeah, it's frustrating when we can't even get two hype jobs in the same division to fight each other.

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #5
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          - -Boxing fans fleeing for more fairly officiated sports including their main comp, UFC that sold for what, $4 bil just a few years back making Dana a billionaire still in charge of the nuts and bolts. Boxing is only alive because of a precious handful of stars(Manny/Canelo) while circling the clogged up drain of American runner/stinkers for years now.

          See the history of Euro feudal kingdoms for the working model of boxing...
          The bolded gave me my morning coffee chuckle man, may karma smile upon you for the rest the day...

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          • BadMedicin3
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            #6
            We can thank the Paul brothers for keeping the interest alive, the rumors about Teo and Fury using covid as an excuse to delay their fights because of low ticket sales is concerning.

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #7
              Yes, boxing can be very frustrating with the BS that's going on, but I think we are still OK. Little star making fights like Zepeda-Tanajara last weekend makes me forget all my boxing troubles. Zepeda is a potential star.

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              • TMLT87
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                #8
                Boxing will always be around in some capacity. Its got too much history and too much infrastructure in place to die completely.

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                • REDEEMER
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Sometimes I think about how interesting it is that boxing is still alive with all of its issues.

                  1. Too many promoters, leads to top fighters being segregated and split among promoters/networks and apps. This gives us the eternal issue of top fighters not fighting eachother.

                  2. Too many belts. This leads to multiple champions, and then not all the title holders are even good.

                  3. Major title’s (WBC, IBF, etc) top 10 rankings are littered with fighters who are no match for good or elite fighters. And other obscure names of boxing that block good fights from happening due to being a mandatory. Major title’s top 10 rankings are usually not a good representation of who are really the top guys in the division. And these sanctioning bodies don’t even follow their own rules and policies a lot of times. They are constantly being taken to court by boxers.

                  4. Boxing usually h the sport more has very little advertisement. Boxing doesn’t get the love NFL, MLB, and NBA get in the US and Canada.

                  5. Boxing is outdated. While all other major sports have features like challenging wrong calls by refs/umpires; boxing still hasn’t gotten the memo. If a ref calls a KD a slip, it’s a slip. If the ref calls a slip a KD, it’s a KD. No watching instant replays and overturning bad calls. Allow fighters to challenge calls with instant replays like other sports.

                  6. ******, outdated, and confusing scoring model. It should be 1 point for the winner and 0 points for the loser. And extra 1 point for KD’s. The 10-9 BS is the second main culprit of bad decisions. With incompetent or corrupted judging being the main issue.
                  Most of this is definitely true but the thing is having only 1 belt in boxing isn’t realistic. There’s way to many fighters for that ,and you would get even more ducks and avoided fights if only even a few belts existed. More belts actually push the sport more ,it may be more confusing but boxing as a whole you would never get all the top guys fighting if the title fights were twice a year . Yes it’s a pain but unless another boxing league like a UFC format comes along ,having one belt isn’t practical anymore . So number 1 and 2 go hand in hand .

                  The rest are great ideas , always supported the 1 point each round idea and extra for a knockdown as well .

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                  • sargo
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                    #10
                    MMA got boring. Hitting with hands is the most basic form of fighting. Jiu jitsu is amazing when you first see the submissions but I guess you get used to it. Knockouts are always fantastic.

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