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Pacquiao vs. Spence is not going to do massive numbers on PPV, only Jake Paul will draw in boxing at this stage

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  • #41
    Originally posted by kushking View Post

    The reason ufc fighters have so many losses to bums is because they're all pub brawling bums,& ufc isn't a real sport. Its a joke.theres a reason boxing has actual stars who stay unbeaten,& UFC bums like Mcgimper get rouseyed by bums after 2 title fights. Its because UFC stars are hypejobs manufactured based on demographics,UFC recruits the same exact way Wcw used to. Ufc is a absolute laughing stock of a combat sport.Sage Nortcutt & Rousey say hi
    Conor and Dustin would both beat the **** out of every boxer remotely close to their size under almost every combat ruleset. And while they do have losses, they also both have more major wins than almost everybody in the p4p top 10 in boxing.

    Boxing has very few "actual stars" now and the only reason most stay unbeaten for so long is because they usually stay away from each other for years until its finally cash out time, then maybe they'll sign a multi fight deal and make sure the first fight is a draw to milk it even more. This is how you end up with a guy like Crawford holding a belt for 7 ****ing years and going 37-0 yet nobody cares about him, or Wilder being 39-0 and on his 7th title defence before he faced an actual elite opponent. The UFC makes stars much more quickly and effectively and a big part of that is because fighters have high profile legacy building fights more frequently instead of padding their record for years while talking **** on Twitter.

    You call the UFC a laughing stock when the biggest fights in boxing today involve Youtubers, MMA fighters and 50+ year old Mike Tyson exhibition bouts lol. I love boxing but lets be honest, the sport is on an overall downward trajectory and is just going to fall further and further behind MMA as time goes on.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

      Conor and Dustin would both beat the **** out of every boxer remotely close to their size under almost every combat ruleset. And while they do have losses, they also both have more major wins than almost everybody in the p4p top 10 in boxing.

      Boxing has very few "actual stars" now and the only reason most stay unbeaten for so long is because they usually stay away from each other for years until its finally cash out time, then maybe they'll sign a multi fight deal and make sure the first fight is a draw to milk it even more. This is how you end up with a guy like Crawford holding a belt for 7 ****ing years and going 37-0 yet nobody cares about him, or Wilder being 39-0 and on his 7th title defence before he faced an actual elite opponent. The UFC makes stars much more quickly and effectively and a big part of that is because fighters have high profile legacy building fights more frequently instead of padding their record for years while talking **** on Twitter.

      You call the UFC a laughing stock when the biggest fights in boxing today involve Youtubers, MMA fighters and 50+ year old Mike Tyson exhibition bouts lol. I love boxing but lets be honest, the sport is on an overall downward trajectory and is just going to fall further and further behind MMA as time goes on.
      Read my thread I just made where I completely prove its complete bs that Paul is a draw,or that any of those exhibition fights were draws(except for Floyd v Mcgimper) & UFC fighters aren't draws either,its like wcw,the promotion is the draw,both those bums you just mentioned would get starched in 1 rd in an actual sport like boxing where its not a free for all of pub brawling.

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      • #43
        Ppvs pretty much tanked after HBO called it quits....

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        • #44
          Originally posted by kushking View Post

          Read my thread I just made where I completely prove its complete bs that Paul is a draw,or that any of those exhibition fights were draws(except for Floyd v Mcgimper) & UFC fighters aren't draws either,its like wcw,the promotion is the draw,both those bums you just mentioned would get starched in 1 rd in an actual sport like boxing where its not a free for all of pub brawling.
          "please dont use 75% of your skillset so I can beat you"

          If you think something like McGregor/Poirier is "free for all pub brawling" you either go to some weird pubs or you need to educate yourself on combat sports outside of boxing, because you obviously dont know what you're looking at.

          MMA is killing boxing by most metrics mate, its inescapable at this point. That McG press conference is at 3m+ views on YT in less than 24 hours. Even **** like Fury/Wilder and Spence/Pac cant come close to that. MMA took over just like they said it would back in the 00s.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

            "please dont use 75% of your skillset so I can beat you"

            If you think something like McGregor/Poirier is "free for all pub brawling" you either go to some weird pubs or you need to educate yourself on combat sports outside of boxing, because you obviously dont know what you're looking at.

            MMA is killing boxing by most metrics mate, its inescapable at this point. That McG press conference is at 3m+ views on YT in less than 24 hours. Even **** like Fury/Wilder and Spence/Pac cant come close to that. MMA took over just like they said it would back in the 00s.
            Mma took over WCWs market share, nothing more. Keep lying to yourself as if boxers waren't still the biggest draws,& as if there warent a reason every mma bum begs for handouts from boxers...

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            • #46
              Originally posted by kushking View Post

              Mma took over WCWs market share, nothing more. Keep lying to yourself as if boxers waren't still the biggest draws,& as if there warent a reason every mma bum begs for handouts from boxers...
              The numbers quite clearly show that MMA fighters are bigger draws. Look at the buyrates, look at the social media followings, look at the view counts, look at which sport is bringing in celebrities, retired old men and people from other combat sports for PPV main events.

              Boxing is kinda small potatoes these days in comparison for the most part tbh.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

                The numbers quite clearly show that MMA fighters are bigger draws. Look at the buyrates, look at the social media followings, look at the view counts, look at which sport is bringing in celebrities, retired old men and people from other combat sports for PPV main events.

                Boxing is kinda small potatoes these days in comparison for the most part tbh.
                As I said boxers have the much bigger draws,mma literally took over WCWs ppv market share,the numbers match up exactly. Mma fighters are on welfare, because nobody cares who they are,they are just a bunch of nameless faces getting battered into mincemeat for entertainment.(mma fans would pay to watch any pub brawlers batter each other,makes zero difference,the only stars mma has are short lived because they are hypejob bums who only sell due to demographics)

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by hectari View Post

                  They are not doing a press tour, and no its not doing even close to 1 million buys.
                  https://www.instagram.com/p/CRH24ygr...dium=copy_link
                  Told ya there will be a press tour. My friend who works for Fox always keeps me updated.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Amir Imam View Post
                      Seems like people stopped caring about Pacquiao once he lost to Floyd.
                      exactly, but also when he got knocked out cold by Marquez his ppv buys plummeted it because Pacman never had real fans, they were casuals who only like guys when they were invincible. They then jumped back on when he fought Floyd and then left again, Pac hasn't done over 450,000 ppv buys since losing to Mayweather

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