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  • #11
    Originally posted by kushking View Post

    You actually believe that myth about JCC?(he literally fought more champions than anyone,he broke records for championship fights)

    JCC resume shts on 99.9% of fighters, especially if this era.
    Myth! I've seen his boxrec. Utter garbage. I've never seen anyone fight more debutants or guys with losing, or barely winning records. Shocking.

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    • #12
      I agree. Everything op said is factual. Spencer is overrated.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Nash out View Post

        Myth! I've seen his boxrec. Utter garbage. I've never seen anyone fight more debutants or guys with losing, or barely winning records. Shocking.
        Lol, Chavez certainly has a bunch of cab drivers on his resume' but also a lot of great fighters. What I laugh is people were going ape sh^t at McGregor counting as a win on Floyd's record when Chavez would fight dudes 0-1 IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME! Like how crazy is that??? Legit fighting guys 0-1, 2-15, 4-3 etc in his prime. Now, you can get away with that if you mix in fights against top guys which he did. He wanted stay busy fights and he got his fair share of them.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post

          Lol, Chavez certainly has a bunch of cab drivers on his resume' but also a lot of great fighters. What I laugh is people were going ape sh^t at McGregor counting as a win on Floyd's record when Chavez would fight dudes 0-1 IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME! Like how crazy is that??? Legit fighting guys 0-1, 2-15, 4-3 etc in his prime. Now, you can get away with that if you mix in fights against top guys which he did. He wanted stay busy fights and he got his fair share of them.
          The thing with Mayweather and Mcgregor, it was a massive payday, crossover fight, whereas Chavez must not have been paid much for fighting those bums. I get the stay busy thing, but too many people glorify the 100 and whatever wins, as at least 70 of them were D level and downward, which is more than any fighter in history that I have seen on boxrec.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Nash out View Post

            Myth! I've seen his boxrec. Utter garbage. I've never seen anyone fight more debutants or guys with losing, or barely winning records. Shocking.
            BS,context matters. He fought 6x in 1 yr in yrs such as the 1 he fought Whitaker in. Back then it was the norm for champs to fights many times a year vs Bums in between elites,he still broke records for champ fights,& he still fought EVERYONE near his weightclass available (even though Whitaker allegedly ducked him for some time)

            You need to reevaluate how you evaluate (of course his early career had a lot of mex bums, just like anyone from Mexico)

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Nash out View Post

              The thing with Mayweather and Mcgregor, it was a massive payday, crossover fight, whereas Chavez must not have been paid much for fighting those bums. I get the stay busy thing, but too many people glorify the 100 and whatever wins, as at least 70 of them were D level and downward, which is more than any fighter in history that I have seen on boxrec.
              Trust me, having 70, 80, 90 etc fights doesn't mean much to me either. What I care is a fighter with a top resume in however many fights they have. Leonard had 40 fights but is anyone complaining about him having so few fights? Nope.

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              • #17
                I remember when you had this same ****** take about Thurman lol.

                hurricanes still suck btw

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                • #18
                  Demetrius Andrade has fought zero world champions in 30 professional fights and yet he walks around calling himself a two division champion.

                  Seven of Spence's most recent nine opponents were world champions:
                  Chris Algieri (former champion)
                  Leonard Bundu (title eliminator)
                  Kell Brook (reigning champion)
                  Lamont Peterson (2X champ at 140, "Regular" champ at 147)
                  Carlos Ocambo (mandatory)
                  Mikey Garcia (four division world champion)
                  Shawn Porter (2X and reigning champion, unification fight)
                  Danny Garcia (2 division champion)
                  Manny Pacquiao (7 division champion)

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post

                    Trust me, having 70, 80, 90 etc fights doesn't mean much to me either. What I care is a fighter with a top resume in however many fights they have. Leonard had 40 fights but is anyone complaining about him having so few fights? Nope.
                    I agree, but there are so many others who put a lot of stock into the amount of wins he had like it is some mean feat based on numbers alone. Someone like Wilder could wipe through 100 D level HW's in a few years, and nobody would think anything of it, but because JCC is an olden day fighter, a lot of people regard the number of wins highly, regardless of who he was beating. Switch his resume with Mayweather's, and imagine the stick Mayweather would get on here, yet, with JCC, hardly anyone mentions it, despite the fact, that JCC, is regularly brought up on this forum.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post

                      Lol, Chavez certainly has a bunch of cab drivers on his resume' but also a lot of great fighters. What I laugh is people were going ape sh^t at McGregor counting as a win on Floyd's record when Chavez would fight dudes 0-1 IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME! Like how crazy is that??? Legit fighting guys 0-1, 2-15, 4-3 etc in his prime. Now, you can get away with that if you mix in fights against top guys which he did. He wanted stay busy fights and he got his fair share of them.
                      Chavez fought who they put in front of him. If they put a bum in front of guys like Chavez or Roy Jones, they got those guys out of there with the quickness.
                      Floyd fights who he puts in front of himself. Big difference. He's good, and more importantly, Floyd boys are good, with seeing Floyd go 24 rounds with a cherrypicked c class bum like Marco's Madonna because he is a paper champ, or get a 50th win on his official record for beating an 0-0 mma fighter like Conor McGregor.
                      I hope guys like Spence, Crawford, etc. wake up and realize that it's better to make the fights when both guys are in their prime if you want optimum respect when your career is over. Holding out for the biggest payday too long is certainly a big risk that doesn't always work out one way, or the other.

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