Originally posted by kushking
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Errol Spence is the most overrated boxer today
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Originally posted by Nash out View Post
Myth! I've seen his boxrec. Utter garbage. I've never seen anyone fight more debutants or guys with losing, or barely winning records. Shocking.
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
Lol, Chavez certainly has a bunch of cab drivers on his resume' but also a lot of great fighters. What I laugh is people were going ape sh^t at McGregor counting as a win on Floyd's record when Chavez would fight dudes 0-1 IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME! Like how crazy is that??? Legit fighting guys 0-1, 2-15, 4-3 etc in his prime. Now, you can get away with that if you mix in fights against top guys which he did. He wanted stay busy fights and he got his fair share of them.
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Originally posted by Nash out View Post
Myth! I've seen his boxrec. Utter garbage. I've never seen anyone fight more debutants or guys with losing, or barely winning records. Shocking.
You need to reevaluate how you evaluate (of course his early career had a lot of mex bums, just like anyone from Mexico)
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Originally posted by Nash out View Post
The thing with Mayweather and Mcgregor, it was a massive payday, crossover fight, whereas Chavez must not have been paid much for fighting those bums. I get the stay busy thing, but too many people glorify the 100 and whatever wins, as at least 70 of them were D level and downward, which is more than any fighter in history that I have seen on boxrec.
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Demetrius Andrade has fought zero world champions in 30 professional fights and yet he walks around calling himself a two division champion.
Seven of Spence's most recent nine opponents were world champions:
Chris Algieri (former champion)
Leonard Bundu (title eliminator)
Kell Brook (reigning champion)
Lamont Peterson (2X champ at 140, "Regular" champ at 147)
Carlos Ocambo (mandatory)
Mikey Garcia (four division world champion)
Shawn Porter (2X and reigning champion, unification fight)
Danny Garcia (2 division champion)
Manny Pacquiao (7 division champion)
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
Trust me, having 70, 80, 90 etc fights doesn't mean much to me either. What I care is a fighter with a top resume in however many fights they have. Leonard had 40 fights but is anyone complaining about him having so few fights? Nope.
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
Lol, Chavez certainly has a bunch of cab drivers on his resume' but also a lot of great fighters. What I laugh is people were going ape sh^t at McGregor counting as a win on Floyd's record when Chavez would fight dudes 0-1 IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME! Like how crazy is that??? Legit fighting guys 0-1, 2-15, 4-3 etc in his prime. Now, you can get away with that if you mix in fights against top guys which he did. He wanted stay busy fights and he got his fair share of them.
Floyd fights who he puts in front of himself. Big difference. He's good, and more importantly, Floyd boys are good, with seeing Floyd go 24 rounds with a cherrypicked c class bum like Marco's Madonna because he is a paper champ, or get a 50th win on his official record for beating an 0-0 mma fighter like Conor McGregor.
I hope guys like Spence, Crawford, etc. wake up and realize that it's better to make the fights when both guys are in their prime if you want optimum respect when your career is over. Holding out for the biggest payday too long is certainly a big risk that doesn't always work out one way, or the other.
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