Usyk is a death man in heavy weight division. Up till now he has not convinced. I think he's risking his career taken the fight against AJ. He should test instead such ones like King Kong Ortiz, Ruiz, etc. and then jump to the champions. AJ will simply ruin his career for sure!
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Originally posted by elegua View PostUsyk is a death man in heavy weight division. Up till now he has not convinced. I think he's risking his career taken the fight against AJ. He should test instead such ones like King Kong Ortiz, Ruiz, etc. and then jump to the champions. AJ will simply ruin his career for sure!
He's fighting for the world title, which is the end goal of the sport ffs
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Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
I agree 100 + % regarding the weight... Been trying to make that point here for years now...
Not quite...AJ will win because of Usyk more than because of anything about AJ.
I always like to read a well reasoned post paragraph by paragraph... So I am right at the point where I will be reading some characteristics you note about AJ...
Before I start reading those characteristics let me clarify something: Here is where I am coming from... Watch tape of Usyk. As a cruiser he almost makes my top ten, probably on my top 15... Guy has head movement, great timing, makes adjustments, fights in all ranges, throws all punches, is defensively brilliant, counters well, and finishes in the manner that one often sees in Sonny Liston. That is what I see on tape. Then I watch Usky transition to heavy: I see an entirely different fighter. I see a guy with his head up, waiting tobe clipped, a guy who moves straight back in long lines... Ali and Jones get away with that... Even Ali was clipped by that iconic Frazier left hook though. So I ask myself? WHY? Why change what is great into what looks like a shell of itself? Then it hits me (pardon the pun)... EVERYTHING Usyk did as a cruiser was based off of one basic quality Usyk had: Usyk was a very physical cruiser weight. He had the ability to impose himself, at that weight, which set the table for everything else he was able to do. With that said, I am going to read and respond to the rest of your post... But we can both see that my opinion is reallynot based much on AJ. Aside from the fact he is a big strong heavy who is faster and hits a lot harder than Chisora... at least the version of Chisosora Usyk fought.
Regarding Joshua. I believe Usyk still has to make Joshua respect him. Ruiz is a much bigger puncher than Usyk, and has faster hands as well... I actually think Ruiz is quite talented... Ibring him up because he was able to exploit Joshua. Joshua may be hesitant, but eventually he will be forced to go after Usyk and to try to land big punches. If Usyk goes straight back he will be clipped hard... as he was against Chisora.
100% agree on Del Boy (Chisora) love the guy... Always brings it, has shown how not being preoccupied with a goose egg has allowed him many opportunities to fight big fights, and always made it interesting... AND he did expose Usyk. he showed how beatable Usyk is at heavy, even Usyk thought he may have lost that fight (true). But DelBoy is just more along his career than Joshua. And DelBoy is pretty basic, what we thought we SHOULD see was Usyk expose him, what we DID see was Usyk really having to hope the judges saw it his way.
What I expect of Joshua is to fight aggressively. Watch tapes of Louis against Conn... My philosophy regarding any puncher is... it is not a "rounds" game for a puncher, it is a "numbers" game. Probability. It was much better for a puncher when a championship fight went 15 rounds because a puncher's strategy is always to try to create as many opportunities to land big shots... A puncher has to think like "against this guy? I will need 10 good opportunities to blow him away." for this fight with Usyk AJ is a puncher... He knows Usyk faltered... all he has to do is create opportunities for big shots. AJ doesn't have to worry about rounds... or Usyk landing. he has to simply fight aggressively. AJ should take a book also from the Tyson Spinks fight. Never let Usyk in the fight...Instead of worrying about gassing, go after Usyk with the sole intent of landing as many big shots as he can.
Joshua is not a great fighter but great fighters give us precident, much as law gives us such with previous legal decisions. Marciano against Moore is a perfect example of precident here... Marciano took a lot of leather from Archie, and ultimately just kept coming. Moore even knocked Marciano down once...
Thats how I see it.billeau2 likes this.
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Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw View Post
Does Joshha utilize that size you like so much? Nope. Dude has no inside fighting game at all. Dude doesn't fight in the clinch either. Plus, the bigger he is fight night the faster his tank will empty.
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More nonsense. Usyk is getting iced in 4 rounds. He presents nothing to AJ that will give issues. Dude has looked awful as a heavyweight.
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Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
AJ is known for gassing and Usyk can turn it on late so this is an interesting fight. Nobody gave Ruiz a chance for the upset either and you saw how that turned out.
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Originally posted by Get em up View PostI just dont see where anybody thinks Usyk is the same guy as he was at Cruiserweight. He was dominant below 200 pounds but in 2 fights at heavyweight he looks like he is too small to create problems for ANY of the better fighters at heavyweight. I'd probably pick a Kownacki type guy to beat him.
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Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post
Joshua hasn't got an inside fight game? Are you serious? His uppercut is lethal. Ask Wlad.
Oh, because someone can throw some shots from close range means that they have a good inside fighting game?
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
AJ doesn't fight in the clinch and he doesn't have any infighting ability. The best he can do is fire combinations off in close quarters but that's not the same thing.
When he gets close he's looking to clinch and have the referee reset the fighters. He does not continue to fight like Fury did against Wilder.
Are YOU serious? Talking about **** you don't even understand?
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