Who Wins if Teofimo and Loma rematch?

[Curt Henning]

Thats' true, but Loma is amazing with channeled aggression that he showed against Nakatani. I think Loma uses it early in the rematch and upsets and frustrates Teo. But it is still quite 50/50 definitely.

i agree...and loma does things with that channeled aggression that guys just never get to see and dont really get replicated in a training camp....loma does things nobody else really does and is unique .......but i do believe loma respects teos power even now......and if teo is in shape to keep loma away/off him for 12 and finds different ways to do it and isnt predictable...he can def beat loma

[RENE JUNIOR]

i agree...and loma does things with that channeled aggression that guys just never get to see and dont really get replicated in a training camp....loma does things nobody else really does and is unique .......but i do believe loma respects teos power even now......and if teo is in shape to keep loma away/off him for 12 and finds different ways to do it and isnt predictable...he can def beat loma

Well said. But I think Loma is more determined than ever now, I feel Teo got slightly complacent lately ever since he won Loma. Loma got so much hungier after the loss and it showed in his performance after Naka. I think this is what Loma needed. And this refreshed Loma is really dangerous for Teo, I am even led to believe Teo will cop ou tof the immediate rematch after Kambo for those reasons. But if he steps up heck yeah, gonna be a great rematch.
The former also makes me believe it will be hard to keep Loma off of Teo for 12 rounds.

[Curt Henning]

Well said. But I think Loma is more determined than ever now, I feel Teo got slightly complacent lately ever since he won Loma. Loma got so much hungier after the loss and it showed in his performance after Naka. I think this is what Loma needed. And this refreshed Loma is really dangerous for Teo, I am even led to believe Teo will cop ou tof the immediate rematch after Kambo for those reasons. But if he steps up heck yeah, gonna be a great rematch.
The former also makes me believe it will be hard to keep Loma off of Teo for 12 rounds.

i respect you...but i think its bullsht of anyone to suspect teo will cop out of anything.....he hasnt done anything to suggest that yet....and it wouldnt be an "immediate" rematch anyway.....even fury took a year in between the wilder rematch and neither party had an injury/surgery

loma is dangerous for anyone....but if they fight again next i think youd be a fool to believe that teo wouldnt respect loma....teo knew going in how good loma was...and he got a taste in the 2nd half...he would go into any rematch fully respecting loma no matter what he says in public to the media

theres also the money factor at play here...teo is going to be a pain to deal with in this respect...hes not going to take a dollar less, for any fight, than his manager believes hes worth...thats just how he is.....his demands are going to have to be met....and hes not going to take the money aspect lightly here just because people want the fight....hes going to have to be compensated as the a-side this time....

loma looked good against nakatani...real good...of course when teo fought him everyone soured on teo after that...they all had commey/teo as a 50/50 basically...and it didnt even last 3 rounds...then teo beat loma....so im careful about recency bias....or the triangle stuff......

[Curt Henning]

Well said. But I think Loma is more determined than ever now, I feel Teo got slightly complacent lately ever since he won Loma. Loma got so much hungier after the loss and it showed in his performance after Naka. I think this is what Loma needed. And this refreshed Loma is really dangerous for Teo, I am even led to believe Teo will cop ou tof the immediate rematch after Kambo for those reasons. But if he steps up heck yeah, gonna be a great rematch.
The former also makes me believe it will be hard to keep Loma off of Teo for 12 rounds.

when people start questioning teo and whether hell take the fight...it reminds me of a time not too long ago

andre ward is sidelined....he comes back and immediately starts talking about fighting golovkin.....ward comes back at a fight at 172 against paul smith...iirc he even allowed smith to weigh in over 175...at 176.something......

ward did this because he was keeping his weight between classes....if golovkin said yes...hed go back to 168 for a fight...if not hed go to 175.......

team golovkin said "no thanks"....so ward bounced....later in the excuses category the golovkin fans used the excuse "ward couldnt make 168 anyway so theres no point"....wellllll

ward said he could....and ward weighed at 172 for his last fight on purpose......WHAT HAD WARD EVER DONE TO MAKE US NOT BELIEVE HIM? nothing.....but thats just the excuse needed by a desperate group of fans

ward, at that point, had a longer track record than teo does now....but there was no reason for us to not believe ward would make 168 if golovkin wanted to fight...no reason to believe teo wont rematch loma if they come correct on teos money

[Citizen Koba]

Lean Loma... reckon he'll be better able to make the necessary adjustment but absolutely not a foregone conclusion. 60/40 maybe

[RENE JUNIOR]

i respect you...but i think its bullsht of anyone to suspect teo will cop out of anything.....he hasnt done anything to suggest that yet....and it wouldnt be an "immediate" rematch anyway.....even fury took a year in between the wilder rematch and neither party had an injury/surgery

loma is dangerous for anyone....but if they fight again next i think youd be a fool to believe that teo wouldnt respect loma....teo knew going in how good loma was...and he got a taste in the 2nd half...he would go into any rematch fully respecting loma no matter what he says in public to the media

theres also the money factor at play here...teo is going to be a pain to deal with in this respect...hes not going to take a dollar less, for any fight, than his manager believes hes worth...thats just how he is.....his demands are going to have to be met....and hes not going to take the money aspect lightly here just because people want the fight....hes going to have to be compensated as the a-side this time....

loma looked good against nakatani...real good...of course when teo fought him everyone soured on teo after that...they all had commey/teo as a 50/50 basically...and it didnt even last 3 rounds...then teo beat loma....so im careful about recency bias....or the triangle stuff......

I don't think it's Bull that he could cop out, several indicators indicate that, and it is not out of the ordinary fighters do that. Teo some time ago said he sent a contract to Haney and Kambo, wasn't true, everyone knew he was going to fight Kambo as mandatory next, sending Haney a contract was false. I wouldn't doubt or think it out of the ordinary if he did the same to Loma. Plus, Bob Arum wants the immediate rematch after Kambo fight, so there should be no reason the rematch should not happen.Time will tell on that note.
Like I said, if Teo mans up to the rematch after Kambo awesome! No shade onTeo at all, just speak neutrally on all fighters.
That's another reason, one reason or another Teo may cop out, as you said for money. It's obvious he should be compensated A side, he has 3 champ belts man that's a given, so there SHOULD NOT be a reason for him to pull out because of money.
I didn't sour on Teo, it wasn't everyone who soured on Teo fam. Maybe biased folk soured on Teo, I have given Teo all the credit not just for Loma victory but for Naka and Commey. Teo can fight, but I see things from all angles too.

[Curt Henning]

alot of guys love the loma revenge angle "loma is determined to avenge this defeat"...and i get that...totally....im certain he is......

but what if teo is equally as motivated and says "im not letting this guy take that next big payday off my familys plate"??.....i mean yeah a nice 10-15 million in career earnings is nice.....but wouldnt 50-100 be better? some guys think like that and not like andy ruiz......teo might be one of those guys

[RENE JUNIOR]

Lean Loma... reckon he'll be better able to make the necessary adjustment but absolutely not a foregone conclusion. 60/40 maybe

Well said, I got Loma but it is still a close fight. Hopefully the rematch happens after Kambo Teo fight if Teo wins.

[Curt Henning]

I don't think it's Bull that he could cop out, several indicators indicate that, and it is not out of the ordinary fighters do that. Teo some time ago said he sent a contract to Haney and Kambo, wasn't true, everyone knew he was going to fight Kambo as mandatory next, sending Haney a contract was false. I wouldn't doubt or think it out of the ordinary if he did the same to Loma. Plus, Bob Arum wants the immediate rematch after Kambo fight, so there should be no reason the rematch should not happen.Time will tell on that note.
Like I said, if Teo mans up to the rematch after Kambo awesome! No shade onTeo at all, just speak neutrally on all fighters.
That's another reason, one reason or another Teo may cop out, as you said for money. It's obvious he should be compensated A side, he has 3 champ belts man that's a given, so there SHOULD NOT be a reason for him to pull out because of money.
I didn't sour on Teo, it wasn't everyone who soured on Teo fam. Maybe biased folk soured on Teo, I have given Teo all the credit not just for Loma victory but for Naka and Commey. Teo can fight, but I see things from all angles too.

working and sending deals to other promoters who have ties to other networks is always weird and complicated...if hes trying to make a deal inhouse with loma it wont be that hard provided the money is right....and with arum you can never be certain it will be.....but it everything is on the up and up its easier to make than teo/haney....

[RENE JUNIOR]

alot of guys love the loma revenge angle "loma is determined to avenge this defeat"...and i get that...totally....im certain he is......

but what if teo is equally as motivated and says "im not letting this guy take that next big payday off my familys plate"??.....i mean yeah a nice 10-15 million in career earnings is nice.....but wouldnt 50-100 be better? some guys think like that and not like andy ruiz......teo might be one of those guys

Good point, Teo can definitely be determined, but it has been said Teo might jsut fight once this year which is the Kambo fight, I am not so sure with this inactivity he will be sharp enough in rematch, but still I have the rematch super close.