whos better skilled offensively,jmm or floyd?

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  • baracuda
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    #51
    Originally posted by tyde13
    if the money's right....

    remember, he got 15 mil guaranteed for this fight....probably more than what pacman and cotto are making for their fight.

    understand why he accepted marquez's challenge?
    and you dont see a problem with it right?....right....and you dont understand why people criticise him right?.....right.......

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    • letsgobrady
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      #52
      Originally posted by baracuda
      and you dont see a problem with it right?....right....and you dont understand why people criticise him right?.....right.......
      people can critcise him all they want that won't change the fact that there is no one better than him

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        #53
        Dinamita has a much better offensive arsenal.

        Floyd is better at defense.

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        • letsgobrady
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          #54
          who can't hit and get hit? seriously think about it, i am a big marquez fan but he gets hit alot, in almost every fight he's bleeding or gettin knocked down

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          • FLY TY
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            #55
            Originally posted by baracuda
            and you dont see a problem with it right?....right....and you dont understand why people criticise him right?.....right.......
            personally, i don't give a ****....

            my problem is, everytime i come on here, i read the same **** about mayweather......over and over and over.

            he "cherry-picks," he "ducks"

            **** outta here....

            bottom line is, dude looks for the most lucrative fights, PERIOD. on 24/7 he said he'll fight cotto OR pacman, as long as the money's right. unlike most ppl, i guess, i understand boxing is a business, and these dudes wanna make the most money they can before they retire.

            mosley is blatantly ducking paul williams, but i don't see threads about that everyday.....but it's floyd, everyday.

            let me break it down one more time.

            FLOYD MAYWEATHER will fight ANYBODY, if the money is right....he cherry-picks the most lucrative fights for himself. not only did mosley duck him back in the day, but mosley and GBP offered him 8 million to fight mosley, against 15 million to fight jmm.....hard decision?

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            • Pullcounter
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              #56
              Originally posted by DLT
              Wrong, you act like Diaz & Casamyaor are way bigger than JMM.
              false, diaz and casa were bigger. that's why diaz was able to bully jmm around the ring. casa beat castillo and corrales FFS!!!! definitely both are bigger than jmm.

              Theyre basically the same size and a ton of people would argue that JMM is the bigger man despite moving up.
              that's just nonsense.

              I mean you cant say theyre bigger just because theyre in a higher weight class.
              uh... so I guess we can just throw out weight divisions right? that way floyd can fight calderon next... I mean since weight divisions are worthless right?

              JMM just Knocked both of them out and is now in a higher weight class then them.
              false. JMM has never fought above 135 lbs.

              I mean, a couple of fights ago you wouldve said that both guys are bigger than Pac but look at it now.
              pac can still make 135.. he was only 138 for hatton.

              Even so, he was not nearly as small to them as Floyd was to Baldy & Oscar and you know it.
              yeah, but that doesn't mean floyd doesn't have to throw combos.

              Saying otherwise is just dumb.
              saying floyd doesn't have to throw combos is dumb too.

              Infact, I think I remember JMM weighing the exact same thing if not more then both guys while Floyd was 148 in the ring against Baldy & Oscar and they were 162-165 pounds.
              yeah, but jmm was the one moving up in weight, hence smaller.

              Dont try to act like that doesnt matter or this size differnce wasnt greater.
              agreed, so jmm is too small for floyd?

              As for your final point, Im not dis*****g that. Im not saying that Floyd really had to do that. That can be disputed. Im saying that he chose to do that but you cant just take that as his full Offensive game.
              agreed, floyd can throw combos, we just really haven't see it.

              You have to take into account what he has shown in his career and against guys his own size, he have a vast array of punches and a beastly Offensive repitore.
              true, but as of now, jmm has to be considered the combo thrower because he actually throws combos.

              Dont hate just to hate and act like the man has never thrown combos or has never fought Offensively.
              I never said that or meant to say that.

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                #57
                but jmm has 0 fights above 135 lbs.
                JMM fight night weight at 135 was 140. It common sense most boxer rehydrate extra 5 pounds.

                jmm didn't potshot against diaz or casamayor, both who were bigger than himself.
                Wrong, JMM outweighed Diaz.


                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                floyd really should've let his hands go. even floyd admitted that his last couple fights were duds.

                JMM throws more combos, PBF potshots

                true, but that fight shouldn't be ppv and should be at 140 lbs.
                Hatton fight was not a dud. He was landing some combos easily on him.
                Baldomir and Oscar were duds due to their massive weight advantage

                PBF throws more combos.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by King Flawless
                  Mayweather at WW, fight night is 148. JMM at WW, will be around 145

                  i see you now used your time machine to go to the future.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by letsgobrady
                    people can critcise him all they want that won't change the fact that there is no one better than him
                    thats according to you....should i put a poll?.......lol

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by tyde13
                      if the money's right....

                      remember, he got 15 mil guaranteed for this fight....probably more than what pacman and cotto are making for their fight.

                      understand why he accepted marquez's challenge?
                      nonononononononon.... floyd should not fight calderon even if its worth $30 million.

                      Originally posted by letsgobrady
                      people can critcise him all they want that won't change the fact that there is no one better than him
                      imho, floyd is a great fighter, but he lately has not thrown combos, hence, JMM is the better combo thrower.

                      Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                      Dinamita has a much better offensive arsenal.

                      Floyd is better at defense.
                      they are both close offensively and defensively, the difference is that jmm is much more offensive minded while floyd is much more defensive minded.

                      Originally posted by letsgobrady
                      who can't hit and get hit? seriously think about it, i am a big marquez fan but he gets hit alot, in almost every fight he's bleeding or gettin knocked down
                      because jmm opens up, while floyd does not.

                      Originally posted by tyde13
                      personally, i don't give a ****....

                      my problem is, everytime i come on here, i read the same **** about mayweather......over and over and over.

                      he "cherry-picks," he "ducks"

                      **** outta here....

                      bottom line is, dude looks for the most lucrative fights, PERIOD. on 24/7 he said he'll fight cotto OR pacman, as long as the money's right. unlike most ppl, i guess, i understand boxing is a business, and these dudes wanna make the most money they can before they retire.

                      mosley is blatantly ducking paul williams, but i don't see threads about that everyday.....but it's floyd, everyday.

                      let me break it down one more time.

                      FLOYD MAYWEATHER will fight ANYBODY, if the money is right....he cherry-picks the most lucrative fights for himself. not only did mosley duck him back in the day, but mosley and GBP offered him 8 million to fight mosley, against 15 million to fight jmm.....hard decision?
                      yeah, floyd cherrypicks the most lucrative fights.

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