tank davis...lets take a time machine

[Curt Henning]

What a strange thread. Tanks owners Floyd and Leonard have doubled up on the choke chain and outright said he's an in-house fighter so there will be none of these fights.

I take it this thread is because they have said what they have said and you are trying to tell us IF they (which they haven't) pressed for a fight with Bob's fighters they would have no chance.

Maybe, maybe not but its just hypothetical where as we already know for a fact Tank and his owners don't want any of that smoke cuz they came out and told us..

you are correct...that is the point...at least you can comprehend that much and acknowledge it.....

how do you know they dont want the smoke? maybe they are telling you what im telling you in their own words? thats certainly possible....your opinion is also a maybe, maybe not.....

like ive said 50x already...none of these guys want to work with each other unless they have to...unless the fight is big enough that its very profitable for both parties....thats essentially what tanks "hanlders" are telling you...and trust me when i tell you they have a ton of experience in the sport and the business side of it........tanks own "handler" has shown you he will flip the bird to bud and say "ive got a ton of inhouse options here...so when im done ill call you".....how do you know tanks "handlers" havent assessed the situation and said "were gonna do our own thing here because its just too tough and we know the other guys promoter wont **** with us"?

teo and his dad have told us alot too...they want loma rematch and move up...so wouldnt it be logical for teo/taylor to link up in the future? yup very logical....before i keep going ill just say "wouldnt it be logical for arum to match these guys up against each other instead of trying to get tank in the mix"? the answer is definitley yes and history has shown us that through arum and others....

you just want to point the finger at tank....and it couldnt be more obvious...you acknowledge you understand my point but then still want to point the finger at tank and his "handlers"...his handlers are some of the most successful and powerful people in the sport...i think they know a little more about all of this than you do

[DaNeutral.]

you are correct...that is the point...at least you can comprehend that much and acknowledge it.....

how do you know they dont want the smoke? maybe they are telling you what im telling you in their own words? thats certainly possible....your opinion is also a maybe, maybe not.....

like ive said 50x already...none of these guys want to work with each other unless they have to...unless the fight is big enough that its very profitable for both parties....thats essentially what tanks "hanlders" are telling you...and trust me when i tell you they have a ton of experience in the sport and the business side of it........tanks own "handler" has shown you he will flip the bird to bud and say "ive got a ton of inhouse options here...so when im done ill call you".....how do you know tanks "handlers" havent assessed the situation and said "were gonna do our own thing here because its just too tough and we know the other guys promoter wont **** with us"?

teo and his dad have told us alot too...they want loma rematch and move up...so wouldnt it be logical for teo/taylor to link up in the future? yup very logical....before i keep going ill just say "wouldnt it be logical for arum to match these guys up against each other instead of trying to get tank in the mix"? the answer is definitley yes and history has shown us that through arum and others....

you just want to point the finger at tank....and it couldnt be more obvious...you acknowledge you understand my point but then still want to point the finger at tank and his "handlers"...his handlers are some of the most successful and powerful people in the sport...i think they know a little more about all of this than you do

One side is hypothetical and one side is fact. If I am going to point a finger at somebody it will be the one who has factually made it clear he won't be fighting outside of his fellow house fighters.

You have hypothesised on other fighters not wanting it and hypothetisised that maybe Tank's team are lying and they could actually want those fights. That's cool and you may well be right, time will tell..

But right now based on facts, words actually spoken and no hypothesis there is only one direction to point the blame.

[Curt Henning]

One side is hypothetical and one side is fact. If I am going to point a finger at somebody it will be the one who has factually made it clear he won't be fighting outside of his fellow house fighters.

You have hypothesised on other fighters not wanting it and hypothetisised that maybe Tank's team are lying and they could actually want those fights. That's cool and you may well be right, time will tell..

But right now based on facts, words actually spoken and no hypothesis there is only one direction to point the blame.

bob is watching the same practice he perfected being used against his boy terrence crawford.....bob used it against floyd for many years....now its being returned on him through the WW division....and bob even held fury out of the rematch in hopes that he could hurt al and make al scramble for opponents for wilder....and now bob will play the same game around 135-140 with tank.....and tanks people know thats what bob will do and are moving on and along

bob many times during pac/floyd fever killed the fight.....it got so bad that floyd later said "**** this im done with these guys i aint chasing"......its called history...and watching trends and analyzing this...im almost 100 percent certain that if tank went to arum and tried to make any of those fights....arum would say "sorry were busy"...u know this also.....you wont admit it...but you know it....thats what ellerbe and company are saying "were not chasing those guys...cause it wont happen"......tanks people are focused on building his name and brand so that every big fighter will want to fight him because hes a big name.....hes not there yet but they are getting close......

u know damn well that if tank pursues those fight he will be shot down by arum....history shows us this...he played that game with floyd...the pbc is playing it with bud and now TR will play the same game with tank around 135-140.....thats just reality and honesty if youve been observing how this plays out

but you want to point the finger at tank because you dont like him, floyd, ellerbe or haymon....thats fine...i know who/what you are.....

intelligent people know what inference means....not everything will be spelled out for you clearly in broad day light...somtimes you have to read in between lines and understand the people involved and what they do...like i said....tanks guys have history dealing with arum and they know how he conducts business.....you cant be certain that they havent already been shot down by arum in regards to tank

[boxinglife8]

Nah i dont think tank is ducking but floyd only making him fight in pbc.If you still looking for another excuse than that means your forcing yourself to believe something false.Why no fights with garcia or Haney even tho i think he beats both.He is currently getting his career controlled with no power in his hands?

[Curt Henning]

tanks team are some of the most successful and powerful in the sport....and have a history dealing with arum...they know him and what its like.....when they say "were doing our own thing" its because they arent going to play the game...in the media...the he said/she said BS.....bob arum is the same guy that said he sent floyd and floyd had X amount of time to respond and even put a countdown clock up on the TR website...lol....there was never any offer at that time and we all know that.....thats what youre dealing with in bob arum....ellerbe and haymon arent getting caught up in that...they already know how this plays out with arum and are just moving along focusing on building tank......arum will go out there and say "oh yeah wed love to fight tank yeah sure wed love it" in the media and never take a serious step to make any fight with him....thats who he is and history has shown us that.....ellerbe and haymon know who he is too...hes the guy that held fury out of a wilder rematch for a year when wilder and everyone else wanted it immediately

[-Kev-]

I'm literally out to lunch. Olive Garden. Bottomless soup, salad & breadsticks. Today they're serving the creamy chicken gnocchi. It's pretty good.

That sh/ts nasty.

Their best dish is the chicken fettuccini. I admit I also like their breadsticks.

I do not have to be Italian to know their Italian food is trash. But my wife and her mother are Italian and they say it’s trash too. They only like the fettuccini they make.

If you have a Piada Italian Street Food near you, try that, it’s pretty good. Try the Basil Pesto Pasta with Grilled Chicken and tell me what you think.

Olive Garden stuff tastes like it has a ton of sodium in it.

[Curt Henning]

Nah i dont think tank is ducking but floyd only making him fight in pbc.If you still looking for another excuse than that means your forcing yourself to believe something false.Why no fights with garcia or Haney even tho i think he beats both.He is currently getting his career controlled with no power in his hands?

in regards to garcia ill state my opinion again

say youre oscar....youve just alienated and lost the most prized asset in boxing in canelo! like he was with you and now hes not...whos bigger in the sport than canelo? not many....ok....so now youre company hinges basically on vergil ortiz and ryan garcia...both good young talents/prospects....you gonna want to risk 22 year old ryan garcia against tank right now? when you need garcia to to be the face of your company? if tank hangs an L on garcia right now that would not be good....now 4-5 years from now you could probably live with it....but right now? nope! not good for your business

with what floyd said....you cant take it just literally...what hes saying is that the weights tank is at is controlled by arum....135-140....teo/loma/taylor....ellerbe, floyd and haymon all know how difficult arum is especially in regards to those 3......arum has always been critical talking trash in the media about them........he froze floyd out of a pac fight for years...now haymon is doing it to crawford at 147....and arum will run the game right back on tank! thats how these guys operate...its cut throat....what floyd is saying is "were doing our own thing we aint chasing nobody"...because he knows exactly what arum will do and how he operates

[Mike D]

That sh/ts nasty.

Their best dish is the chicken fettuccini. I admit I also like their breadsticks.

I do not have to be Italian to know their Italian food is trash. But my wife and her mother are Italian and they say it’s trash too. They only like the fettuccini they make.

If you have a Piada Italian Street Food near you, try that, it’s pretty good. Try the Basil Pesto Pasta with Grilled Chicken and tell me what you think.

Olive Garden stuff tastes like it has a ton of sodium in it.

Truth is I never was at Olive Garden. I was just fooking with TS. I haven't been to Olive Garden in like 5 years.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Arum wrote the blueprint of In house fights. He’s not going to make Taylor or Teo available for Tank until those two fight each other first. Taylor vs Teo is a great credible fight that’s significant and he can keep it in house. There’s a chance Tank could fight the winner if the fights big enough.

[-Kev-]

Truth is I never was at Olive Garden. I was just fooking with TS. I haven't been to Olive Garden in like 5 years.

Lol.

Still, if you ever come across Piada, give it a try. I ate that once or twice a week, every week, when I was single and had no one cooking for me.