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  • Smash
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    #11
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    so lets go back 2-3 months ago....tank davis wants to make a fight...he says to haymon and floyd "i want teo, loma or josh taylor and i wont settle for anything else".....
    LOL yeah tank has been screaming their names for ages now trying to make the fights, i mean hes barely off the airways with his call outs

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    • Curt Henning
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      #12
      Originally posted by Smash

      LOL yeah tank has been screaming their names for ages now trying to make the fights, i mean hes barely off the airways with his call outs
      the point flew over your head....or youre just ******...either way

      its called a hypothetical scenario...

      why would bob pursue a fight with tank when he can make...

      teo/loma 2
      teo/taylor
      taylor/bud

      you act like tank can snap his fingers and make bob interested

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        Wouldn’t they all take the fight because Tank Davis is “the biggest star under 147”?

        Wouldn’t they want to beat him to take some people from Davis’ incredible customer base?
        its true that tank is a rising star...hes building his name up so that he is that guy that everyone will want to fight...hes been guided well for sure...."build name and the resume will come"

        but heres reality.....why would bob pursue that fight for any of those 3 guys when he has stuff he can do with them right at home? ....just like bob did with pac before floyd....exhaust all good inhouse options or fights that can be made easily before....same type of thing haymon does with spence....exhaust all inhouse options before fighting bud....

        teo/loma 2 could happen
        teo/taylor could happen
        taylor/bud could happen....in fact any of those are logical and very possible.....so why is bob going to and risk teo or loma getting beat by tank? hes not...hes not interested....no matter what he says....

        you use the "tank is a star" point in attempt to mock him.....but if someone claimed it you would try to shoot it down...it cant be both....you either believe he is the biggest star under 147 or he isnt....what ellerbe says doesnt matter

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          #14
          Originally posted by Curt Henning



          you act like tank can snap his fingers and make bob interested
          maybe he can, teo v tank is boxoffice and teo has just flamed tank for leaving the division & they have history too

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            #15
            **** me, is Olive Garden pre packaged microwaved food?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              **** me, is Olive Garden pre packaged microwaved food?
              yeah man....loaded with salt too...which is prob why many find it so appealing.....go get some authentic with good ingredients....yeah it costs a little more...but it means more.....and youre not supporting some restaurant corporation

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                #17
                Originally posted by Smash

                maybe he can, teo v tank is boxoffice and teo has just flamed tank for leaving the division & they have history too
                teo vs tank would be good....would do well right now....but like i said...what if bob arum wants to do teo/loma 2? and possibly set up a trilogy? dont you think that would take precedent? i think so.....what if he has plans on matching teo vs taylor at 140? he very well might as teo keeps talking of going north....wouldnt that take precedent? yeah i think it would.....so yeah...now you see what im getting at......

                its the same with oscar and ryan....ryan vs tank right now would do pretty well.....but look at oscars whole company....he lost canelo! friggin canelo! the biggest asset in boxing! so now his company hinges on ortiz and garcia....you think oscar is in a hurry to possibly hang an L on garcia right now via tank? i dont think so!

                politics and business play a role...always....and right now they are rearing their collective head....tank simply wanting the fights doesnt get them done....you are entitled to believe he doesnt want them if you want.....but trying looking around and thinking about things logicially and objectively for a few minutes.......

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                  #18
                  I think Top Rank would gladly risk Lopez, Lomachenko and Taylor against Davis.

                  I think they all see more reward than risk in those scenarios.

                  Lopez was in a recent dispute with Top Rank. Lomachenko is old. Taylor signed to get a fight he wanted and kind of got what he wanted from them.

                  In a sense, all of them can lose and it’s fine. A win also sets up a potential super fight for Top Rank to promote.

                  Looking at who they’ve fought backs that theory up. Those guys aren’t ducking anyone and Arum isn’t protecting them. It’s clear. Lomachenko has been fighting for titles since he second pro fight and went for undisputed against a no name. Lopez found Lomachenko at age 22. Taylor was more accomplished by his 12th pro fight than most people will ever be and continues to challenge himself.

                  Davis is the one hopping around three different weight classes to avoid people.

                  Originally posted by Curt Henning

                  its true that tank is a rising star...hes building his name up so that he is that guy that everyone will want to fight...hes been guided well for sure...."build name and the resume will come"

                  but heres reality.....why would bob pursue that fight for any of those 3 guys when he has stuff he can do with them right at home? ....just like bob did with pac before floyd....exhaust all good inhouse options or fights that can be made easily before....same type of thing haymon does with spence....exhaust all inhouse options before fighting bud....

                  teo/loma 2 could happen
                  teo/taylor could happen
                  taylor/bud could happen....in fact any of those are logical and very possible.....so why is bob going to and risk teo or loma getting beat by tank? hes not...hes not interested....no matter what he says....

                  you use the "tank is a star" point in attempt to mock him.....but if someone claimed it you would try to shoot it down...it cant be both....you either believe he is the biggest star under 147 or he isnt....what ellerbe says doesnt matter

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    you are entitled to believe he doesnt want them if you want.....but trying looking around and thinking about things logicially and objectively for a few minutes.......
                    he doesnt want the fights now, it doesnt take a genius to work that one out!!!!

                    but hey its boxing and its a dangerous sport so i understand as well, he wants the big fights on his terms or maybe he wants to avoid certain people entirely who knows, its bad for boxing overall but maybe good for tank, who know, we shall see how it pans out, hes on ppv fighting these guys so the future is bright if he keeps winning

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                      #20
                      What a strange thread. Tanks owners Floyd and Leonard have doubled up on the choke chain and outright said he's an in-house fighter so there will be none of these fights.

                      I take it this thread is because they have said what they have said and you are trying to tell us IF they (which they haven't) pressed for a fight with Bob's fighters they would have no chance.

                      Maybe, maybe not but its just hypothetical where as we already know for a fact Tank and his owners don't want any of that smoke cuz they came out and told us..

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