Comments Thread For: Wilder Says a 'Lack of Loyalty' Led To Rematch Loss To Tyson Fury

[Mmann2e]

And Wilder would be in the same situation that Adonis Stevenson was in after Gvozdyk nearly killed him.

And..? What of it two people punching each other in the face has never been a healthy activity

[Mmann2e]

Sounds to me like Dirrell and whichever Charlo had his best interests at heart, just like Breland had.

Not much good to his daughter if he wound up like Gerald McClellan, I bet his family wish the trainer threw the towel in.

Like Dirrell noted, his legs had completely gone, obviously where the power comes from and so had his balance, so he couldn't even set his feet, also integral to generating power.

He was also constantly being pushed backwards and he was clearly uncomfortable with that too, there was no 'get out of jail card' he just got beat up by the better man on the night.

And if an armchair fan (albeit an avid one) can see this, it must have been screaming out to Fury, who was now very much on the front foot with little regard for what's coming back and of course Breland, who ultimately did the right thing.

That's not to say he's got no chance this time around but if he's still in denial it doesn't leave much room for honest evaluation and genuine improvement.

And this version of Fury seems to have the self discipline to keep his **** together between fights and still make solid progress.

In fact since watching Fury punch himself in the face a good 10 years ago, can't think of a more improved fighter and I'm not a diehard fanboy of his or hater of Wilder by any means.

To be honest, I'd watch Wilder fight every week, not for the sweet science, just for the entertainment value. Bit like watching an 80's action movie, you don't have to think about it, just sit back and enjoy.

And in seven years his daughter will be paying bills for his brain dead a$$, honestly his daughter should be an adult and what her father decides how his life goes is of no consequence to her

[-Kev-]

Andre Dirrell, has recently confessed to being that 'Snake in the grass' Mark Breland's accomplice. Yet, this shocking revelation has not been given the appropriate media coverage that it deserves. Instead, what the media does ( including the boxingscene ) is quote Deontay Wilder's strong claims of corruption and scheming, because they know that's what triggers traffic.

Nobody cares about the truth, casual-fans and devils only want to be entertained by Deontay's misfortune and struggles, this is why I support Deontay's silence and boycott of old-media.

I fail to see what is wrong. I watched the whole video thinking something crazy was going to be said. It’s just Andre Dirrell saying he told Breland to throw in the towel because he was seeing blood come out of Wilder’s ear and he didn’t think that was normal. He said multiple fighters in the stands were begging Wilder’s corner to stop it due to the punishment he was taking.

Grasping at straws here.

Fighters don’t need to die or get career ending brain damage to know when they have taken too much punishment. Dirrell should be proud of himself, he saved Wilder’s brain.

[Oldskoolg]

Lol what a bizarre story. Anyway yeah you would've been on a deployment somewhere with your fellow NCOs I assume but I was at the Calzaghe-Kessler fight and in hindsight it was a rock solid performance by Calzaghe and perhaps his best win all told.

One thing though, if you have been watching boxing since Ali fought, that means you had been deployed at around 55-60 years old in 2006 when Calzaghe and Lacy fought? What age did you sign up?? God speed to you, never heard of a 60 year old being on overseas deployment as an NCO...

Yes sir, born in the 60s, enlisted in the 80s, retired, got into law enforcement and retired from that line of work before coming back to instruct when the pandemic started. Collecting two retirements and disability. Other half is also U.K. born from Nuneaton, met at the university I finally completed my degree at where she is a research scientist. Mate I havnt eaten meat in years, don’t often drink, and work out every day. If I don’t make it to 90 I’ll be deeply offended…..

in any event. That fight with Kessler was definitely a cracking good sc****. I always caught up with Calzaghe and I remember at the time hoping that he would venture over stateside earlier than he did. Thankfully I had a years long stint with a subscription to Boxing News which thankfully kept me up on the boxing scene

[Mmann2e]

Massively agree with both the above comments.

Earlier on in his career, especially after the Chisora and Cunningham fights, I would've confidently argued that Fury was a KO waiting to happen. He always got tagged in fights (including by himself lol) and had major lapses - I dunno if he was just bored or improved since, but he uses his natural weapons alongside his awkward style beautifully when he wants to now. I do still think Joshua might be able to walk him down and break him down tho..

**** on re Wilder too. If he could just take his loss like, he'd be even more exciting to most fans now and actually make more money. He's nuts tho and is Jeff Lacy II now imo. Think he gets stopped inside 6 this time against Fury simply due to his mental weaknesses.

He's a **** fighter and the world already knew it , he played and lost and the next lost we can put a tombstone over his career as in he ain't coming back. He has two option after this fight a journeyman gatekeeper or retire; there will be nothing as he offers nothing. He's not Broner as AB spent a career being a jackass and there can only be one Mayorga; boxing and the networks can't handle two idiot savants. He's not Mayweather as the 0 is gone and no one outside of the people on this site and hardcore people are going to care about Wilder and his hick family. Lastly he's 36 and his primary way of getting knockout is depreciating rapidly and soon he won't have the speed, quickness or reflexes to unload. Yes Mark did him a great disservice not letting the ref end it. He would've been broken but he'd then could blame the ref for ending the fight not his own corner.

[The plunger man]

Wilder still has not mentally recovered from the beating he took from fury......still blames others instead of realising he is absolute garbage and has zero boxing technique

[The plunger man]

Wilder was utterly beaten.....had no answer and was getting knocked from ring post to ring post and if that fight had gone on any longer wilder might have himself been bodybagged !!!
Breland did the honourable thing any good and caring trainer would do.

[1hourRun]

Great interview with Andre Dirrell. I felt the same way as Dirrell at the time. I believed his eardrum was ruptured and I believed Wilder was in bad shape, but I was still hoping he would find a way to turn the tide and knock Fury out. Now, after Wilder explained how weak he felt, after Wilder provided credible evidence of glove tampering, I feel very differently. You can guarantee the trilogy fight is going to be on a level playing field, or there will be no fight. I'm thinking this fight is going to be a Hagler-Hearns type of fight...

The referee WAS going to stop it, but Breland made his decision. Doesn't matter what Dirrell advised him to do, Breland was Wilder's employee and was warned to never throw in the towel. He did it anyway and was fired immediately.

The truth is hard for some people to handle. And human beings will ALWAYS be competitive in every aspect of life. Some will do whatever it takes to get an edge...

Well, I'm not too sure that the trilogy will be fought on a level-playing field. I have recently contacted VADA for updates on Fury's testing, I have yet to receive a reply.

No Elie, nobody cares about the moron aka 1hourBum,
1inch****, 1minCum etc.

I present detail valuable information, which sheds light to Tyson's misdeeds. This is the reason why you constantly slander my name and rally other immoral deplorables against me, but it wont do you any good, Peter.

Powerful interview. You can either play the victim or you can rise to the challenge of being self-sufficient, knowing that it will be a constant fight to deal with snakes in the grass.

To accept passively an unjust system is to cooperate with that system;thereby the oppressed become as evil as the oppressor. Non-cooperation with evil is as much a moral obligation as is cooperation with good. The oppressed must never allow the conscience of the oppressor to slumber.

- Martin Luther King, Jr., PhD

Well since you are a self proclaimed 'Expert' on reeeporting (and suk'n Wilder off) get busy with your
Investigative journalism and produce.

Remember the eye-witness accounts were captured on a TV screen, A towel saved Wilder from going face first into the canvas.

Video evidence shows that the Gypsy-Bum could not KO Deontay Wilder with numerous flagrant fouls, video evidence also shows that Kenny Bayless penalized your worthless nephew ; one more illegal-rabbit-punch and Tyson would of been DQ.

I fail to see what is wrong. I watched the whole video thinking something crazy was going to be said. It’s just Andre Dirrell saying he told Breland to throw in the towel because he was seeing blood come out of Wilder’s ear and he didn’t think that was normal. He said multiple fighters in the stands were begging Wilder’s corner to stop it due to the punishment he was taking.

Grasping at straws here.

Fighters don’t need to die or get career ending brain damage to know when they have taken too much punishment. Dirrell should be proud of himself, he saved Wilder’s brain.

So you acknowledged that Dirrell 'saved' Deontay's life. Regardless of Andre's motives, be it sincere or self-serving, Dirrell confessed to coercing Mark Breland for two whole rounds right before the towel was thrown in and admitted that he was influential in Breland's decision to betray Deontay Wilder.

I was laughed at and ridiculed for telling the boxingscene what pro Kronk gym Andre Dirrell just reveal to the world, but now this confession is being marginalized as it does lend credence to what team Wilder reported months ago to the bias media that only want to financially exploit this scandal and milk it for as long as possible -- vindicating Wilder's claims would be bad for business.

[GlassJoey]

The lack of loyalty is the people who encouraged him to take another beating

[HandsofIron]

Loyalty? No way, he took an L cuz of that big ass 225 lb suit he walked in with. Errbody knows day.