Comments Thread For: Wilder Says a 'Lack of Loyalty' Led To Rematch Loss To Tyson Fury

[petero]

I know that this confession by Andre Dirrell is unsettling news. I remember how for months Wilder's opposition pro-Fury fans denied and dismissed shocking reports by Wilder's camp to the media regarding Mark Breland giving into his ties with Sugar-Hill and the KRONK gym. Incidentally, the Dirrell brothers were apart of said faction. Now we here Andre Dirrell confirm what the Bombsquad said a long, that Kronk gym/Tyson's group had influenced Mark Breland on February 22, 2020.

As I mentioned in my original post, real investigative journalism is not granted to Deontay Wilder's ''allegations'', in spite supporting eye-witness accounts, video evidence and Tyson's history of doping and glove tampering.

Those that stand on the side of truth are always in the minority.

Well since you are a self proclaimed 'Expert' on reeeporting (and suk'n Wilder off) get busy with your
Investigative journalism and produce.

Remember the eye-witness accounts were captured on a TV screen, A towel saved Wilder from going face first into the canvas.

[ShoulderRoll]

Idk, it's hard to pin this all on Andre Dirrell. He definitely showed poor judgement and evil intent in trying to get the fight stopped just when Deontay was rallying, but we have to remember that it was Arthur Abraham who fouled and severely concussed Dirrell late in their fight all those years ago. Dirrell's poor judgement can be directly traced to King Arthur's foul, which we now see was intentionally done to damage Dirrell's mind to the point that he would one day betray the Bronze Bomber. To be fair, Arthur Abraham may not be the true mastermind of all of this either. We don't yet know the extent to which Sauerland Promotions or the German (or Armenian) sports federations may have been involved. The truth is out there and 1HourRun is going to find it.

I didn't know that Arthur Abraham was in on this too. Man, it's crazy how deep the rabbit hole goes.

I hope our king Deontay stays strong with so many snakes in the grass against him.

[davefromvancouv]

why would wilder carry anybody? he drops rounds the entire fight until he lands. he is always head hunting for the knockout. its the only way he can even win against fury is with 3 or more knockdowns or a knockout

Because this fight is about punishing Fury, not just about knocking him out. And it won't be easy. Which is why Wilder's had 5 training camps since the second fight and Fury has cut off all social media. They've both grown from each other and know that this is going to be a tough gruelling fight.

[elfag]

Fair play, I don't discuss boxing with many people born sometime between 1950-60 though, so I use more modern analogies.

I also have no idea what this "small island" agenda you're pushing is about either. It's irrelevant.

I don't think Wilder is behaving like Ricky Hatton post Mayweather, Prince Naz after losing to Barrera, Bruno after Tyson, Lewis after McCall, Cooper after Ali (one especially for you), Minter after Hagler, Witter after Judah etc etc

This reminds me alot of how Lacy had his soul taken by Calzaghe and was never the same again.

I think a lot of Lacy's downfall was physical. His very next fight after calzaghe he injured his shoulder, had surgery took a year to recover and yeah was never the same. He was 30 at that point and maybe he was overhyped but he was still one of the best in a weak divsion pre calzaghe.

I didnt see anything from him that he was mentally ruined and i dont recall him making a bunch of excuses post calzaghe. His typsko rematch right after that calzaghie loss was a solid opponent for the division back then not a soft touch and he did well enough in that fight.

It seemed like after his comeback he couldnt get his punches off anymore, nothing and i mean nothing was connecting. He didnt look liek that before, he used to land his shots and now he was getting gift decisions over C level journeymen unable to connect solid on them. Something was really wrong but I dont think it was just a mental issue, I thought he was shot physically by his early 30s. His timing was shot and he was slower and was never a fast guy to begin with but he got really slow.

[GameTimeSA]

'Lack of Loyalty' yeah I couldn't agree more with Wilder. An American, sugar hill steward agreed to be a head trainer for a Brits Boxer. Mr Steward ain't loyal to fellow American!!

[springfiels]

It seemed like after his comeback he couldnt get his punches off anymore, nothing and i mean nothing was connecting. He didnt look liek that before, he used to land his shots and now he was getting gift decisions over C level journeymen unable to connect solid on them. Something was really wrong but I dont think it was just a mental issue, I thought he was shot physically by his early 30s. His timing was shot and he was slower and was never a fast guy to begin with but he got really slow.

I agree with the above, but no way we can say it was just physical after his first loss, which was a points loss against one of the "slappiest" fighters in history... What you have described sounds almost entirely mental, overthinking and unsure of himself, instincts gone.

Post-Calzaghe he had 11 fights, won 6 (only 1 inside the distance) and lost 5. And as you say, looked a different fighter.

Pre-Calzaghe his record was 22 fights, 1 NC and 20 wins (16 inside the distance).

[1hourRun]

Idk, it's hard to pin this all on Andre Dirrell. He definitely showed poor judgement and evil intent in trying to get the fight stopped just when Deontay was rallying, but we have to remember that it was Arthur Abraham who fouled and severely concussed Dirrell late in their fight all those years ago. Dirrell's poor judgement can be directly traced to King Arthur's foul, which we now see was intentionally done to damage Dirrell's mind to the point that he would one day betray the Bronze Bomber. To be fair, Arthur Abraham may not be the true mastermind of all of this either. We don't yet know the extent to which Sauerland Promotions or the German (or Armenian) sports federations may have been involved. The truth is out there and 1HourRun is going to find it.

You are two steps ahead of me NachoMan. I cant believe that I failed to see the connection with Andre Dirrell and the ****-Germans, this has project MK-Ultra written all over it. Kalle Sutherland, has shown signs of a human subjected to mind-control and drug experiments.





On the other hand, this could be a simple case of jealousy and envy by Andre Dirrell : I remember how Andre Dirrell was ridiculed and labeled a coward for allegedly faking serious injury due to a foul that was apparently intentional by Arthur Abraham ; and who can forget that Dirrell also quit vs Jose Uzcategui in a bitter rivalry which was also filled with controversy.

In contrast, Deontay Wilder refused to surrender his pride in far worse conditions, and displayed bravery that Andre can only achieve in his dreams.

[Oldskoolg]

I think a lot of Lacy's downfall was physical. His very next fight after calzaghe he injured his shoulder, had surgery took a year to recover and yeah was never the same. He was 30 at that point and maybe he was overhyped but he was still one of the best in a weak divsion pre calzaghe.

I didnt see anything from him that he was mentally ruined and i dont recall him making a bunch of excuses post calzaghe. His typsko rematch right after that calzaghie loss was a solid opponent for the division back then not a soft touch and he did well enough in that fight.

It seemed like after his comeback he couldnt get his punches off anymore, nothing and i mean nothing was connecting. He didnt look liek that before, he used to land his shots and now he was getting gift decisions over C level journeymen unable to connect solid on them. Something was really wrong but I dont think it was just a mental issue, I thought he was shot physically by his early 30s. His timing was shot and he was slower and was never a fast guy to begin with but he got really slow.

I just never saw him as anything special and I don’t really remember him being a braggart or in any way obnoxious. I held him about the same level as a Lamar parks or a Bryant Brandon. Had he faced Jones when Jones was a wrecking ball in his prime at super middle he would have been atopped very easily. Calzaghe came along at a time in which both Hopkins and Jones were well past their primes as was Eubank. But then again Eubank was never quite the same after the Watson fight.
I remember watching the Calzaghe-Lacy fight with other NCOs, we had just gotten back from an overseas deployment. Most of the guys had never heard of either Calzaghe or Lacy but I remember telling all Calzaghe would win. And he did. The only win that TRULY impressed me was his win over Kessler. I thought Robin Reid outpointed Calzaghe. At 41-0, I knew he would beat Lacy though. For some reason my countrymen back home have really latched on to that win. There is no equivalent for Americans with A defeat of a British fighter

[springfiels]

I just never saw him as anything special and I don’t really remember him being a braggart or in any way obnoxious. I held him about the same level as a Lamar parks or a Bryant Brandon. Had he faced Jones when Jones was a wrecking ball in his prime at super middle he would have been atopped very easily. Calzaghe came along at a time in which both Hopkins and Jones were well past their primes as was Eubank. But then again Eubank was never quite the same after the Watson fight.
I remember watching the Calzaghe-Lacy fight with other NCOs, we had just gotten back from an overseas deployment. Most of the guys had never heard of either Calzaghe or Lacy but I remember telling all Calzaghe would win. And he did. The only win that TRULY impressed me was his win over Kessler. I thought Robin Reid outpointed Calzaghe. At 41-0, I knew he would beat Lacy though. For some reason my countrymen back home have really latched on to that win. There is no equivalent for Americans with A defeat of a British fighter

Lol what a bizarre story. Anyway yeah you would've been on a deployment somewhere with your fellow NCOs I assume but I was at the Calzaghe-Kessler fight and in hindsight it was a rock solid performance by Calzaghe and perhaps his best win all told.

One thing though, if you have been watching boxing since Ali fought, that means you had been deployed at around 55-60 years old in 2006 when Calzaghe and Lacy fought? What age did you sign up?? God speed to you, never heard of a 60 year old being on overseas deployment as an NCO...

[Southpawology]

No Deontay, The REAL reason you lost is because you are an inferior fighter compared to fury. Fury is a superior fighter to you.