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  • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    On a clean, fair, even and level playing field then Wilder should be just fine. You just don't get the kind of punching power that Fury displayed over night. It obvious there was some type of deception and subterfuge involved. Shit, even you know that but whatever you say; Please don't tell me that you believe that Tyson Fury is innocent because when you do. It insults my intelligence.
    Fury has displayed that sort of punching power before. You DO realise that 70% of his fights have ended in KOs/TKOs, right? He used to train with Kronk before and obviously learnt a few things going by his record.

    Just accept that he lost fair and square and MOVE ON. You'll make yourself ill with all of this paranoia.

    What are you going to say if Fury batters Wilder AGAIN next month? More cheating? Or will you accept it as a good win? I mean EVERYONE will be looking out and making sure that there's no tampering with gloves, no gypsum added to hand wraps, no poisoning of water, no egg weights, no more 'disloyalty' in Wilder's camp this time, right?

    RIGHT?!!?
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    • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
      On a clean, fair, even and level playing field then Wilder should be just fine. You just don't get the kind of punching power that Fury displayed over night. It obvious there was some type of deception and subterfuge involved. Shit, even you know that but whatever you say; Please don't tell me that you believe that Tyson Fury is innocent because when you do. It insults my intelligence.
      if you think that Fury somehow cheated right under the noses of the NSAC and the WBC, and then Wilder is going back to be cheated again by the same people, then yes. I am absolutely insulting your intelligence.

      Go read Mark Breland's post about what happened with Wilder, about how the guy wants to surround himself with yes men. The man seemed genuinely hurt that someone would accuse him of such a thing, especially when he is supposedly helping a brit he doesn't know cheat his own fighter from his own country that he's been with since almost the beginning. In a just world , you would have to actually have some evidence for such an accusation to be believed but you have people repeating it as if it happened and it wasn't just made up by the world's whiniest fighter..

      And if Mark Breland did do that, all under the noses of all the officials and the world and Wilder himself (in his latest excuse) said that he would have won if it wasn't for "disloyalty", how does that implicate Fury himself?

      This is why Wilder stuck his headphones and said nothing. Im sure his handlers told him that questions about his accusations were coming and he could get in real trouble if he started throwing around bull**** accusations with no evidence new, especially when they implicate the other fighter, the sanctioning body, the athletic commission, your own corner, everyone basically.
      So they probably told him to just shut the **** up because I'm sure NO ONE believes he could have answered those questions without either implicating everyone involved which would make him an idiot for going back to be screwed again, or he'd be opening himself up to lawsuits.
      Safer to just shut up and not even try to promote the fight.
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      • I want to know how this alleged poisoning didn't have Wilder failing the drug test? Not even smack goes through your body THAT bloody quick and a Mickey would take 24 hours to leave his system.

        And how did Breland know how much of the water he'd drink? Too little and it wouldn't work, too much and he'd be falling asleep in the corner lol

        Just ****e excuses made by a man who's ego can't handle the L. It's pretty sad and disgraceful really. He's no champion in my eyes.
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        • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          On a clean, fair, even and level playing field then Wilder should be just fine. You just don't get the kind of punching power that Fury displayed over night. It obvious there was some type of deception and subterfuge involved. Shit, even you know that but whatever you say; Please don't tell me that you believe that Tyson Fury is innocent because when you do. It insults my intelligence.
          As far as insulting your intelligence, there's not a lot to insult there. Fury put on weight and went in heavy to power punch. He still doesn't have the most devastating power, but the accuracy and skill with punches that hard will wear down a fighter within a few rounds, just like it did Wilder. Wilder's best bet to suffer the least pain would be to lube himself up real good, lay on the canvas,spread his butt cheeks, and hope Fury only cornholes him instead of beating him into the next universe. Either way, he'll be Fury's biotch within a few rounds. And then what are you going to say? How could anyone witness the last fight and say that everyone conspired against Wilder?

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          • Originally posted by medic5678 View Post

            I think you mean Wilder is going to lay down on his stomach and spread his butt cheeks for Fury. Let's just hope Wilder's team doesn't forget the Vaseline!
            Would you trust Tyson Fury in a room with a pair of gloves unsupervised?

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            • Originally posted by Dirk_Skirkly View Post

              if you think that Fury somehow cheated right under the noses of the NSAC and the WBC, and then Wilder is going back to be cheated again by the same people, then yes. I am absolutely insulting your intelligence.

              Go read Mark Breland's post about what happened with Wilder, about how the guy wants to surround himself with yes men. The man seemed genuinely hurt that someone would accuse him of such a thing, especially when he is supposedly helping a brit he doesn't know cheat his own fighter from his own country that he's been with since almost the beginning. In a just world , you would have to actually have some evidence for such an accusation to be believed but you have people repeating it as if it happened and it wasn't just made up by the world's whiniest fighter..

              And if Mark Breland did do that, all under the noses of all the officials and the world and Wilder himself (in his latest excuse) said that he would have won if it wasn't for "disloyalty", how does that implicate Fury himself?

              This is why Wilder stuck his headphones and said nothing. Im sure his handlers told him that questions about his accusations were coming and he could get in real trouble if he started throwing around bull**** accusations with no evidence new, especially when they implicate the other fighter, the sanctioning body, the athletic commission, your own corner, everyone basically.
              So they probably told him to just shut the **** up because I'm sure NO ONE believes he could have answered those questions without either implicating everyone involved which would make him an idiot for going back to be screwed again, or he'd be opening himself up to lawsuits.
              Safer to just shut up and not even try to promote the fight.
              God damn! Tyson Fury must have really have you mind fucked also! Tyson Fury ain't goin' do shit!

              If Wilder was lying he would have sued him months ago. There you go insulting my intelligence again. if you believe for one second this man is innocent. Then you are much sicker than I thought. Would you like for me to provide video evidence of his deception?

              If you believe that Tyson Fury is innocent then you are either a liar or a coward. Tyson Fury did that shit. You know it. I know it and the whole damn world knows it! He is guilty as sin! The man is dodgy as fuck! It's all a cover up and a conspiracy.

              Moreover, don't get it twisted pal! No one tells Deontay Wilder shit! He says what he wants to say and do and speaks as he damn please! He speaks his truths.

              Man Deontay Wilder has a lot of evidence of his alleged deception and subterfuge on video and on a photo. I dare Tyson Fury to sue Wilder. I just dare him. He won't because he knows he has a lot of shit to hide. All of his past indiscretions would come to light. If he was on solid legal footing he would have sued a long fucking time ago.

              No, Deontay Wilder should press criminal charges against Tyson Fury for aggravated assault. He should have this crazy, lunatic motherfucker locked up behind bars. The man is a brutish, uncivilized and inhumane piece of elephant shit!

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              • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

                Would you trust Tyson Fury in a room with a pair of gloves unsupervised?
                Why would I ever have to worry about that. The gloves are inspected carefully. Teddy Atlas said Deontay's accusations on the gloves are ridiculous. There's only one explanation that isn't ridiculous : Wilder got his ass kicked.

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                • It was a lack of brains and boxing skill that led to the defeat . Stop blaming everyone and everything
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                  • Originally posted by medic5678 View Post

                    Why would I ever have to worry about that. The gloves are inspected carefully. Teddy Atlas said Deontay's accusations on the gloves are ridiculous. There's only one explanation that isn't ridiculous : Wilder got his ass kicked.
                    Ok, Mr. New ALT man. Obviously you know me but I don't know you because you are too cowardly to stand toe to toe to dialogue with me like a real man.

                    Also, anyone would get their ass kicked if the person they are fighting are breaking the rules within a boxing match. If Team Wilder insists on Tyson Fury wearing the exact same brand of a new minted pair of gloves as Deontay Wilder then Tyson won't stand a chance. He's getting knocked the fuck out. It's just that plain and simple.

                    Lastly, as far as Teddy Atlas is concerned; What the fuck does he knows about boxing? When was the last time he ever laced up a pair of professional boxing gloves on his hands for a licensed prizefight? The answer is never.

                    Remember, that Margarito got away with it and the commission didn't catch him and also Luis Resto gloves were tampered with and the New York Athletic Commission didn't catch him either. So that should be able to tell you all you need to know just how easily the system can be manipulated.

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                    • Why cant this imbecile Wilder say:

                      "I lost fair and square, I will win the 3rd fight."

                      I think we would all be looking up to the 3rd fight with more enthusiasm and eyeing him with more respect, but to me, win or loose, he is just a clown now!

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