Antonio Tarver: If Pac beats Spence he goes to the top of All Time Greats

[Roadblock]

Even before Pac busted up Thurman Max kellerman has already been saying Pac's resume' is enough to be submitted for argument to be in the Top of the ATG. What more stopping Thurman and Spence, which are the 4th generation top fighters Pac will be fighting in his career.

To tell it simply, he has been fighting top guys in 4 generations. (Pause and reflect)

He already surpassed Henry Armstrong in accomplishments. Pac is also the oldest welterweight to win a championship.


Watch this video so you'll get it.

I get it but Spence ain't all that great and that changes the whole game, you are as good as what you beat.

Thurman was broken that's why Manny managed to get a split decision, before his cherry picking his name Manny was what fighting washed JWWs and a novice with 15 fights now after a broken Thurman we have Spence and Mannys trainers saying he is not the same after the car wreck, the picture is looking like they think Spence is broken and so jumped on it.,,, These are the words used by Team Pac ,. they are the ones saying Thurman looked terrible in his comeback and is not the same, and now they saying it about Spence, not the same after his car wreck and looking ordinary with Garcia.

[Pac=Duran]

Your boy's legacy is a joke. Morales (not prime) 3x, Barrera (def not prime) 2x and JMM (life and almost death) 4x. For some reason, Pac felt it was best he fought them 9 times !
A ton of names that I've already mentioned and Thurman.
Prior to Morales, Pac's resume is a shlt. FACT
Names don't lie. For every bum May fought, Pac has fought 10.
Pac could not survive Mays list of opponents WHEN he fought them.

Haha opinion disgarded. Bum opinion from a bum poster. Brush up on your knowledge dosser

[BodyBagz]

Even before Pac busted up Thurman

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Talk about exaggerating
Pac is shy about his bruises

[Spoon23]

I get it but Spence ain't all that great and that changes the whole game, you are as good as what you beat.

Thurman was broken that's why Manny managed to get a split decision, before his cherry picking his name Manny was what fighting washed JWWs and a novice with 15 fights now after a broken Thurman we have Spence and Mannys trainers saying he is not the same after the car wreck, the picture is looking like they think Spence is broken and so jumped on it.,,, These are the words used by Team Pac ,. they are the ones saying Thurman looked terrible in his comeback and is not the same, and now they saying it about Spence, not the same after his car wreck and looking ordinary with Garcia.

No, the fact you say you get it. You actually don't.

Pac is 42. Pac beating PRIME Champions when he shouldn't be able to beat anymore, is what makes it great.

Pac shouldn't be beating Prime fighters. That in itself is why he is cut in the different cloth. You are measured to what you do in the ring.

At this stage 4 generations of being great is called "EXCELLENCE"

He has no business beating young blood.

But I don't expect you to get it.

[BodyBagz]

Haha opinion disgarded. Bum opinion from a bum poster. Brush up on your knowledge dosser

In the beginning, 1st TWENTY FOUR FIGHTS, Warrior Pac fought FIFTEEN guys with less than 10 wins
The 24 opponents combined W/L rec = 225-154 (avg 9-6, not including draws)

Let me repeat this
1st 24 fights with his opponents totaling 225 wins !!!

Not legendary enough ? Let's proceed....

From some guy with a bloated W/L record (32-1 Sasakul...his resume is a whos who of the farming industry) to Barrera (SIXTY fights into his career). This totals another SEVENTEEN fights = 480 - 56 (avg 28-3. That's including Marco's 57 W's and ton of unknown food vendors with bloated W/L records)

FORTYONE FIGHTS
W 705 - L 210 (avg 17 - 5)
I should point out that Pac is not undefeated

To put this legendary resume into perspective, May had 50 fights

Let's see the next 9 fights
42-2 JMM, D (Pac had JMM down 3X in the 1st rd and went life and death the next 11)
44-7 ???? W TKO (another food vendor)
47-2 Morales L UD
42-10 ???? W TKO
48-2 Morales W TKO
56 ( ) - 4 Larios W UD
48-4 Morales W KO
34-0 ( ) Solis W KO
63-5 Marco W UD
380 Ws (thanks to those rematches)
36 Ls (had those other fighters fought REAL opponents, there would be more Ls)

After 50 fights, Pac's opponents racked up a whopping 1085 combined Ws (avg 22 Ws)

Now, you Pac fans want to say that May would have suffered a loss if he faced these guys ?!?!?!?!?

I can't think of an easier run of FIFTYfights !!!!!
And yet Pac couldn't go 0

[Pac=Duran]

In the beginning, 1st TWENTY FOUR FIGHTS, Warrior Pac fought FIFTEEN guys with less than 10 wins
The 24 opponents combined W/L rec = 225-154 (avg 9-6, not including draws)

Let me repeat this
1st 24 fights with his opponents totaling 225 wins !!!

Not legendary enough ? Let's proceed....

From some guy with a bloated W/L record (32-1 Sasakul...his resume is a whos who of the farming industry) to Barrera (SIXTY fights into his career). This totals another SEVENTEEN fights = 480 - 56 (avg 28-3. That's including Marco's 57 W's and ton of unknown food vendors with bloated W/L records)

FORTYONE FIGHTS
W 705 - L 210 (avg 17 - 5)
I should point out that Pac is not undefeated

To put this legendary resume into perspective, May had 50 fights

Let's see the next 9 fights
42-2 JMM, D (Pac had JMM down 3X in the 1st rd and went life and death the next 11)
44-7 ???? W TKO (another food vendor)
47-2 Morales L UD
42-10 ???? W TKO
48-2 Morales W TKO
56 ( ) - 4 Larios W UD
48-4 Morales W KO
34-0 ( ) Solis W KO
63-5 Marco W UD
380 Ws (thanks to those rematches)
36 Ls (had those other fighters fought REAL opponents, there would be more Ls)

After 50 fights, Pac's opponents racked up a whopping 1085 combined Ws (avg 22 Ws)

Now, you Pac fans want to say that May would have suffered a loss if he faced these guys ?!?!?!?!?

I can't think of an easier run of FIFTYfights !!!!!
And yet Pac couldn't go 0

You wrote out all those COPE just to get ignored lol

Pac = Top 5 fighter ever time to come to terms with that fact sir

[BodyBagz]

You wrote out all those COPE just to get ignored lol

Pac = Top 5 fighter ever time to come to terms with that fact sir

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Ignoring FACTS won't make them disappear

[BodyBagz]

Resumes are what they are.
To some fan bases, they are not worth looking at

[Roadblock]

No, the fact you say you get it. You actually don't.

Pac is 42. Pac beating PRIME Champions when he shouldn't be able to beat anymore, is what makes it great.

Pac shouldn't be beating Prime fighters. That in itself is why he is cut in the different cloth. You are measured to what you do in the ring.

At this stage 4 generations of being great is called "EXCELLENCE"

He has no business beating young blood.

But I don't expect you to get it.

Manny is not the first to beat a good fighter over 40 Bhop did it 10 yrs older than Manny, you always think nobody else exists what ever Manny is the greatest you cannot have an objective view with Manny, the Sunshine coming out of his ass is blinding you.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ghters-over-40

[Spoon23]

Manny is not the first to beat a good fighter over 40 Bhop did it 10 yrs older than Manny, you always think nobody else exists what ever Manny is the greatest you cannot have an objective view with Manny, the Sunshine coming out of his ass is blinding you.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ghters-over-40

Whaat? You still don't get it. At this age Pac shouldn't even be fighting in the welterweight. He already jumped 8 divisions.

That's a milestone in itself, not to mention the oldest welterweight to be a champion.

Now has Hopkins reached 8 divisions??

Hopkins has to climb super heavyweight to reach Pac's accomplishments. Hope that's clear enough for you. You can't down play what is there. What Pac did is remarkable.