Antonio Tarver: If Pac beats Spence he goes to the top of All Time Greats

[Pac=Duran]

But he's not.

Pacquiao is the old legend.

Spence is the young upcoming potential ATG.

Pacquiao is doomed to be retired as history shows.

He's far more likely to get robbed than get KO'd imo.

[Roadblock]

He's far more likely to get robbed than get KO'd imo.

There is a possibility Manny quits on his stool, how would you handle that ?

[Spoon23]

What I see is all of a sudden Spence is being rated as a future ATG, if thats what you guys think you dont know what youre looking at, Spence is a good strong young champion he hasnt proved anything remotely close to ATG status, he is Ike Quartey level without one-punch KO power, before the fight was made all the Manny fans said was he had to beat TC to be worthy of a Manny fight, that he was an easy beat for Manny blah blah, now its made and Spence is an ATG in the making.Errol has a few miles to go before you can even talk about whether he has at that superstar level, WE DONT KNOW YET, Spences assets are his youth and stamina not his boxing, his boxing is slow deliberate pressure, its not dynamic or explosive.

Manny chose this fight because he knows he has a good shot of beating a slow methodical guy like Spence

You are analyzing it all wrong again.. It's not about Spence being an ATG.

It's the moment in time Pac is fighting a Prime hungry lion who is a beast and is very dangerous to fight at this point in time. A 42 Pac is suppose to lose this fight. Defying it is what makes it another great accomplishment. An ATG tye accomplishment that will launch him to stratosphere.

But he's not.

Pacquiao is the old legend.

Spence is the young upcoming potential ATG.

Pacquiao is doomed to be retired as history shows.

Exactly, Pac is not suppose to win, but if he defies the odds. That's an ATG move fit to close his amazing career.

[Roadblock]

You are analyzing it all wrong again.. It's not about Spence being an ATG.

It's the moment in time Pac is fighting a Prime hungry lion who is a beast and is very dangerous to fight at this point in time. A 42 Pac is suppose to lose this fight. Defying it is what makes it another great accomplishment. An ATG tye accomplishment that will launch him to stratosphere.



Exactly, Pac is not suppose to win, but if he defies the odds. That's an ATG move fit to close his amazing career.

I understand all of that fully but its getting blown out of proportion because Spence is being inflated above what he is, I see it as just Manny fighting one of the top guys he is aged but it truly is only a number and I don't see Manny as some broken-down guy trying to do the impossible, its very winnable and in that it cant be mission impossible and if its not mission impossible its really just another big win over a top guy, not a win over an ATG superstar guy which is how they are applying it.

Im just looking at the boxing side Im not playing into any emotion here, Im looking at what Errol has done and where they are at right now, for me its Errols test for that next level, its Errol that has to prove himself here, its no doubt a top win but its not as big as they are trying to hype it, so much depends on what Spence really is and right now we don't know.

[Spoon23]

I understand all of that fully but its getting blown out of proportion because Spence is being inflated above what he is, I see it as just Manny fighting one of the top guys he is aged but it truly is only a number and I don't see Manny as some broken-down guy trying to do the impossible, its very winnable and in that it cant be mission impossible and if its not mission impossible its really just another big win over a top guy, not a win over an ATG superstar guy which is how they are applying it.

Im just looking at the boxing side Im not playing into any emotion here, Im looking at what Errol has done and where they are at right now, for me its Errols test for that next level, its Errol that has to prove himself here, its no doubt a top win but its not as big as they are trying to hype it, so much depends on what Spence really is and right now we don't know.

Even before Pac busted up Thurman Max kellerman has already been saying Pac's resume' is enough to be submitted for argument to be in the Top of the ATG. What more stopping Thurman and Spence, which are the 4th generation top fighters Pac will be fighting in his career.

To tell it simply, he has been fighting top guys in 4 generations. (Pause and reflect)

He already surpassed Henry Armstrong in accomplishments. Pac is also the oldest welterweight to win a championship.


Watch this video so you'll get it.

[BodyBagz]

Floyd fought some bad opponents too. Ortiz and Guerrero when there were far far better guys to choose from?

The reason why Manny gets a pass for tune ups is because he has so much legacy capital in the bank after fighting prime legend after P4P guy time after tike. And plus he's always fighting the bigger man after coming up from fly weight.

Its just not the same.

Your boy's legacy is a joke. Morales (not prime) 3x, Barrera (def not prime) 2x and JMM (life and almost death) 4x. For some reason, Pac felt it was best he fought them 9 times !
A ton of names that I've already mentioned and Thurman.
Prior to Morales, Pac's resume is a shlt. FACT
Names don't lie. For every bum May fought, Pac has fought 10.
Pac could not survive Mays list of opponents WHEN he fought them.

[BodyBagz]

Ha. Thurman was in cruise control the whole fight, has one shaky round, and now he was getting the business.

You Floyd Boys really know how to overexaggerate.

You Pac bois exaggerate his entire resume.

''Pac nearly killed Thurman with that knock down !!!''

Thurman was mostly off balance and was up at 3

[BodyBagz]

Thurman probably took lopez lightly but when you fight Pac you bring your A game.
Just because may makes his opponents look like they are better versions and makes hard work of them don't mean they were better. Pac can't help he makes common opponents look like bums. Just because maidana looked elite against Floyd don't mean maidana was.

The stories you Pac bois have to tell yourselves

[BodyBagz]

I want a Pac boi to tell me they'd be impressed with May if he fought the guys Pac did, WHEN HE FOUGHT THEM

Larios, Diaz, Cotto*, Algieri, Vargas, HORN, Bradley 3x, shot DLH*, shot Rios, shot Lucas, shot Broner, shot Mosley, shot Clottey,

Fifteen fights (there are many more) !!!!!

Cmon, tell me you bois would be May fans if he had that run of opponents

[TMT_HEAT]

Isn't the best part of Pac's resume him being an 8 division champ?