Insider Notebook: Mosley, Schaefer Respond To Judah

[baracuda]

No, I don't think Floyd would have done the same to Margarito
that Mosley did but I do believe that Floyd would have beat him
in similar fashion to Baldomir. Can't compare Shane/Floyd's style
totally different. Floyd told Margarito to keep winning and when
they meet it will be bigger, he didn't promise nothing AND what
did Margarito do right after that? Lost against Paul Williams.

same to baldomir?.....**** ..why did;nt he fight hin then after promising him a fight for more money......i give margo a good chance of beating floyd same way as he beat cotto....margo could walk through his punches and hurting him in the late rounds.....

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i believe only vernon forrest came close to hurting him bad....floyd aint hurting him
true oscar lost a lot of his big fights exept vs ssm rematch and tito trinidad...
floyd won via split decision when oscar was 35,i dont think he could beat him in his prime.....

Floyd was at a disadvantage in the fight with Oscar in regards to
gloves, size, ring, PLUS Oscar had Freddie Roach in his corner and
Oscar sparred with Mosley to prepare for Floyd. On top of that
Floyd was the smaller man. All things stacked in De La Hoya's
favor and he still lost. Honestly, I think Floyd out classed the
bigger Oscar. Manny wins over JMM were closer than that Oscar/Floyd
fight. The only reason people think Oscar won was because he was
the aggressor. Oscar lost to good fighters in his prime and Floyd
was always on another level so can't say that Floyd wouldn't be able
to hang with Oscar in his prime because a prime Floyd was/is good
too.

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same to baldomir?.....**** ..why did;nt he fight hin then after promising him a fight for more money......i give margo a good chance of beating floyd same way as he beat cotto....margo could walk through his punches and hurting him in the late rounds.....

Floyd conditioning is way better than Cotto's and Floyd is a
technician that gets stronger and adjusted as the fight goes
on. Cotto relied too much on his power and aside from the
possibility of plaster, Cotto did not fight smart because he
couldn't even get his best body punch off. Floyd is light
years ahead of Margarito skill wise, I don't believe for a
minute that he would have beat Floyd. Cotto doesn't have
a good defensive strategy and Floyd is the best. Margarito
swings wide and crazy. What happens to guys that try
to pressure Floyd? Floyd would have put a boxing clinic on
Margarito. The reason why the fight never happened was
because Margarito held no weight and Floyd was chasing
Oscar bottom line. Oscar would have kicked Margarito's
ass if he fought him instead of Floyd on that night. Oscar
has power and Margarito at 154 is not as strong/effective
as he is at 147 and Daniel Santos proved that.

[baracuda]

Floyd was at a disadvantage in the fight with Oscar in regards to
gloves, size, ring, PLUS Oscar had Freddie Roach in his corner and
Oscar sparred with Mosley to prepare for Floyd. On top of that
Floyd was the smaller man. All things stacked in De La Hoya's
favor and he still lost. Honestly, I think Floyd out classed the
bigger Oscar. Manny wins over JMM were closer than that Oscar/Floyd
fight. The only reason people think Oscar won was because he was
the aggressor. Oscar lost to good fighters in his prime and Floyd
was always on another level so can't say that Floyd wouldn't be able
to hang with Oscar in his prime because a prime Floyd was/is good
too.

oh crap...sorry i dont buy any of those excuses.......floyd is not the type of guy who would just give in knowing he'd be in a severe disadvantage......thats a matter of opinions when you think mannys wins over jmm is closer than pbf vs oscar,the fact is they were both sd.....manny kd'd jmm awhile floyd did'nt.....so i think otherwise.....

[PACHUGGER]

By Robert Morales - "Sugar" Shane Mosley said he saw Zab Judah at a Las Vegas night spot Tuesday evening. Interestingly, Mosley said Judah told him about some of the things he told BoxingScene.com publisher Rick Reeno that appeared on this website about midnight (Eastern Standard Time) Tuesday.

"I just seen Zab last night at a club and he was pleading his case and why he said what he said," Mosley said Wednesday, speaking specifically about Judah allegedly turning down an offer to fight him Dec. 26 because he wasn't pleased with what was offered him.

"I told him that actually I didn't care about that. I told him I have to go out and find someone who wants to fight the No. 1 welterweight in the world," Mosley told BoxingScene.com.

Judah, however, perhaps went too far when he told Reeno, "I don't fight HGH patients." From Mosley's reaction, it doesn't appear he knew about that part of the story.

"The HGH, I never took HGH," said an animated Mosley, who tested positive for steroids after his second fight with Oscar De La Hoya.

"I don't do that. They can test me any time they want to."

Someone Needs To Man Up

It should be no surprise to anyone that Mosley could be nearing his wit's end.

"There are a bunch of cowards out there who don't want to fight," said Mosley, who became a two-time welterweight champion when he stopped Antonio Margarito in the ninth round in January in Los Angeles. "Everyone wants to say, 'Oh, there isn't enough money.' Everybody has excuses. They don't want to get their hands hurt, they don't want to get their ribs hurt. [details]

A coward is the one who took steroid.

[flyest1]

I'm a huge Floyd and Molsey fan. But I honestly beleive that Floyd was scared of Margo. When Margo came face to face with him that was it. I know when people are scared of others just by looks. Floyd looked like he was scared of him

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oh crap...sorry i dont buy any of those excuses.......floyd is not the type of guy who would just give in knowing he'd be in a severe disadvantage......thats a matter of opinions when you think mannys wins over jmm is closer than pbf vs oscar,the fact is they were both sd.....manny kd'd jmm awhile floyd did'nt.....so i think otherwise.....

Ok, so Manny knocked down JMM but still got a split decision
that could have easily gone to JMM in the second fight, the first
fight was debatable as well. Floyd out landed De La Hoya in
every punch stat category AND Floyd was at a disadvantage
in that fight because Oscar did make Floyd move up and use
the gloves of his choice and the ring and that to me is a big
disadvantage for the smaller Mayweather first time fighting
at 154. He agreed because he wanted to fight Oscar De
La Hoya.

[baracuda]

Floyd conditioning is way better than Cotto's and Floyd is a
technician that gets stronger and adjusted as the fight goes
on. Cotto relied too much on his power and aside from the
possibility of plaster, Cotto did not fight smart because he
couldn't even get his best body punch off. Floyd is light
years ahead of Margarito skill wise, I don't believe for a
minute that he would have beat Floyd. Cotto doesn't have
a good defensive strategy and Floyd is the best. Margarito
swings wide and crazy. What happens to guys that try
to pressure Floyd? Floyd would have put a boxing clinic on
Margarito. The reason why the fight never happened was
because Margarito held no weight and Floyd was chasing
Oscar bottom line. Oscar would have kicked Margarito's
ass if he fought him instead of Floyd on that night. Oscar
has power and Margarito at 154 is not as strong/effective
as he is at 147 and Daniel Santos proved that.

****..cotto is way more skilled than margo but look what happened to him.....the thing about floyd fans is ..its because a less skilled fighter beats some guys..they assumed floyd would beat him too .... skills is not enough to win fights,...floyd cannot walk through punches like margo.....floyd is not willing to trade punches like cotto or....floyd is not willing to take risk when **** aint workin...and sometimes you gotta do these kinds of things to win.....

[GRUSTLER]

I'm a huge Floyd and Molsey fan. But I honestly beleive that Floyd was scared of Margo. When Margo came face to face with him that was it. I know when people are scared of others just by looks. Floyd looked like he was scared of him

Floyd didn't even get out of his seat for Margarito AND
he barely turned around to talk to him. If I feel intimidated
I'm standing up and getting on point, Floyd was relaxed.

[baracuda]

Ok, so Manny knocked down JMM but still got a split decision
that could have easily gone to JMM in the second fight, the first
fight was debatable as well. Floyd out landed De La Hoya in
every punch stat category AND Floyd was at a disadvantage
in that fight because Oscar did make Floyd move up and use
the gloves of his choice and the ring and that to me is a big
disadvantage for the smaller Mayweather first time fighting
at 154. He agreed because he wanted to fight Oscar De
La Hoya.

i hate excuses man so.....floyd beat hoya via split decision when hoya was 35.......in his prime hoa didnt gas out like he did in that fight....and you know damn well who won those early rounds up to about 9.......