Comments Thread For: Joshua: Wilder Struggles at Top Level, A lot of Us Waiting To Kick His Ass!

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Once a fighter has lost there's always a blueprint to work from , occasionally when a fighter wins it's still there to be studied and work a slightly better one. Joshua's is pretty straight forward back him up after he's thrown his flurry , he can not defend or slip more than three punchers and then moves back in straight lines with very little defence and is a sitting duck . This simply tactic worked perfectly for Ruiz who only hits moderately hard , a massive puncher such as Wilder only needs to land once. This is why young Edward did a runner with him and since the Ruiz demolition unless Wilder ends up fighting with just one leg don't look for these people to be around for that.

Ruiz hits moderately hard?

Hang on a minute, after Ruiz knocked Joshua out, all the Matchroom groupies like BangEM were claiming that Ruiz hits like a truck and has insane power?

That's before Ruiz went life and death with the corpse of Arreola.

[jethro66]

Wilder never fought Klitchko..25 years from now everyone will ask why not,Fury and AJ did

[PBR Streetgang]

None of these three HWs are elite. AJ not elite, Fury not elite and Wilder jot elite. They just happen to be the best of the bunch at the moment. Fury and AJ both hang their hat on beating an old and disinterested Klitschko (who wasn't rated all too highly himself during his era). Wilder doesn't even have that for his claim....

[Earl-Hickey]

I’m fine with Joshua saying that Wilder isn’t elite, but curious to know what makes Joshua think he himself is elite? Was it going life and death with an inactive, old, and nearly retired Klitchko? Or perhaps it was his win over the same Whtye who got splattered by a washed up Povetkin? Or was it that boring and tentative revenge win over an even fatter Ruiz who previously pummeled him until he quit?

Whatever way you want to spin it he definatley has an elite record, definatley.

Two time unified champ with 3 belts, 9 wins in world title fights, we can go through his record and discredit him but I could do that about literally any fighter.

If he beats Usyk he's probably a top 20 ATG at heavyweight.

The winner of him vs Fury if it gets that far is a top 10 ATG it's that simple.

[Earl-Hickey]

Once a fighter has lost there's always a blueprint to work from , occasionally when a fighter wins it's still there to be studied and work a slightly better one. Joshua's is pretty straight forward back him up after he's thrown his flurry , he can not defend or slip more than three punchers and then moves back in straight lines with very little defence and is a sitting duck . This simply tactic worked perfectly for Ruiz who only hits moderately hard , a massive puncher such as Wilder only needs to land once. This is why young Edward did a runner with him and since the Ruiz demolition unless Wilder ends up fighting with just one leg don't look for these people to be around for that.

You can't say Wilder only has to do what Ruiz did, they aren't comparable fighters at all, one is 6'0" 260lb with 74" reach the other is 6'7" 215lb with 83" reach, you literally could not get two more polar opposite fighters.

Also, yes AJ is chinny having been rendered stank by a Ruiz flurry but Wilder was rendered in very similar condition by a straight right by Fury, so if AJ lands a 1-2 like Fury Wilder would be ko'd

So it's a fight between two glass cannons and in that fight I'm always going to pick the superior technical fighter which is AJ.

I doubt we will ever see the fight as Wilder is going to lose to Fury next for the third time and I think that's probably him done with at 36 years old.

[DaNeutral.]

The reality is that wilder has faced the best heavyweight in the world twice…drew once and lost the other. And is coming back to face him again. Joshua has not faced either of the other top heavyweights and lost to a short fat replacement. I get it, matchroom is supposed to hate wilder because he’s American and wouldn’t let young Edward control his every move….but Joshua may want to actually put some grey matter into his thought process about these claims

Who has decided Wilder is one of the 2 top Heavyweights? How and when did he jump above Joshua? One of them is a unified champion and one of them isn't a champion at all. I don't any legitimate ranking that hold Wilder above Joshua.

Also Fury was far from the sports number 1 the 1st time they fought. And after the draw he fought 2 low ranking fighters that don't Warren him rising straight to number 1.

[Nash out]

Just because Fury, the GOAT undisputedly, can beat Wilder, does not mean that the others can. Wilder is still the world number 2, even if Fury beats him 10 times. Wilder would destroy Femi.

[Earl-Hickey]

Just because Fury, the GOAT undisputedly, can beat Wilder, does not mean that the others can. Wilder is still the world number 2, even if Fury beats him 10 times. Wilder would destroy Femi.

Granted Fury is the only top fighter to beat Wilder

He's also THE ONLY TOP FIGHTER WILDER HAS FACED

Until Wilder defeats a top heavyweight, he's a bum.

At least the 40 year old AJ beat like klitschko and Povetkin used to be good

Ortiz and stiverne were never good.

[Earl-Hickey]

Who has decided Wilder is one of the 2 top Heavyweights? How and when did he jump above Joshua? One of them is a unified champion and one of them isn't a champion at all. I don't any legitimate ranking that hold Wilder above Joshua.

His wins over Stiverne and Ortiz propelled Wilder to the pinnacle of the division.

I can't wait for Fury vs AJ to be signed so the Fury fans can stop pretending Wilder is better than AJ just because that's the win fury has.

Everyone knows AJ is better but there's some amount of smoke and mirrors, Fury will beat AJ and then fury fans will own up to the fact he was always better than Wilder anyway.

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