Comments Thread For: Joshua: Wilder Struggles at Top Level, A lot of Us Waiting To Kick His Ass!

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  • Dreamking
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    #41
    Personally I believe Wilder KO's Joshua. He doesn't have the boxing skill to keep Wilder off him for 12 rounds and he got knocked down by smaller punchers in the past.

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    • BangEM
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      #42
      Originally posted by Dreamking
      Personally I believe Wilder KO's Joshua. He doesn't have the boxing skill to keep Wilder off him for 12 rounds and he got knocked down by smaller punchers in the past.
      And AJ can’t stop Wilder within a round?

      Wilder fans are the dumbest in boxing. AJ punches harder than Wilder with both hand and he has the most powerful uppercut in the division. But you expect him to sit there for 12 rds and not spark a bum who has zero boxing skills. Clown.

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      • BangEM
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        #43
        Wilder is a bum and this is his retirement party. He’ll retire after Fury beats him to a pulp again. That’s his plan.

        The bum isn’t fighting anyone else.

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        • davefromvancouv
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          #44
          Originally posted by Monty Fisto

          Wilder is number 2 for what achievements? Getting a dodgy draw with Fury? Beating Ortiz? What exactly did Ortiz ever do in his career? Who are the pedigree fighters Wilder has beaten?

          Also, Fury clearly not the GOAT when he hasn't even cleared up if he is the best in his own era. He needs to face Joshua to make a definitive claim of being the best in his era. Maybe he would win, but we don't know for sure until they actually fight.

          Finally, I'm sure even you know that your comment about losing 10 times to Fury and still being number two is ridiculous hyerbole. If Wilder loses this upcoming fight with Fury he is a heartbeat from retirement.
          Wilder is number 2 because he's knocked down or knocked out EVERY fighter he's faced, he was the longest reigning champion with 10 title defenses, matching Muhammad Ali, prior to his only loss against the number 1 fighter and the lineal champion of the world. The same fighter he knocked down and almost out in their first fight...

          Ortiz was slickly avoided by Joshua when Ortiz was WBA mandatory. Hearn convinced Ortiz to step aside for Joshua-Klitschko, with a promise that he'd be next. After the great fight, Ortiz was side-stepped again for the failed Klitschko rematch, the failed Pulev IBF mandatory then IBF replacement Takam. Whyte refused to fight Ortiz to become WBC mandatory, and even refused to fight him when Wilder guaranteed a WBC title shot. Fury said fighting Ortiz is high risk low reward. Wilder knocked him out twice.

          The powers that be tried to freeze Wilder out of his contractually obligated rematch with Fury, but luckily he won arbitration. Now, it's payback time and Wilder is coming for blood.

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          • Sosay
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            #45
            He isn't, but that makes it worse that AJ avoided him.

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            • Boxingkeen
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              #46
              Wilder has fought nothing but handpicked opposition. He struggled with 45 year old Ortiz! Anthony Joshua did more with less fights. Wilder is just a one trick pony that’s it.

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              • NorvernRob
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                #47
                Are people even reading the article? He just says that Wilder has relied on his right hand only and didn’t develop any other skills, so he was going to come undone eventually at elite level.

                He’s fought one elite fighter his entire career, nicked a draw then got beaten half to death. Ortiz had him out on his feet, and he’s been outboxed in plenty of fights.

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                • Jab jab boom
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

                  Whatever way you want to spin it he definatley has an elite record, definatley.

                  Two time unified champ with 3 belts, 9 wins in world title fights, we can go through his record and discredit him but I could do that about literally any fighter.

                  If he beats Usyk he's probably a top 20 ATG at heavyweight.

                  The winner of him vs Fury if it gets that far is a top 10 ATG it's that simple.
                  I’m not impressed with this current eras multitude of titles nor am i impressed with this crop of heavyweights. So while you feel he’s elite based on accolades, im looking more so at the actual quality of opposition which is underwhelming at best.

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                  • vitali1999
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                    #49
                    Yes AJ. The first time wilder Ortiz. a ranked guy that wasn't a bum, he was nearly knocked out, Ortiz.

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                    • peplz
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by I have no ears

                      U can't really complain to much about Joshua's opponents tbf though, he's fought his mando's and they all happened to be old, and the ones who weren't his mando's were replacement's for the actual opponents in Ruiz case. Joshua needs the belts for legitimacy so he will only fight what out infront of him and if they are 38 year olds then it can't be classed as his fault, he's gonna fight usyk now because that's his mando, and he's a dangerous opponent so I believe he wouldn't throw away a belt for an opponent deemed to dangerous for him
                      Joshua “needs the belts for legitimacy”? Is this a real statement or some kind of spoof? So Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder don’t “need the wbc belt for legitimacy”?Are we now reframing the sport of boxing and saying that title fights are just a ploy for fighters to gain legitimacy? No more champions just fighters who need belts for legitimacy?

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