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  • Zelda
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    Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
    wilder has a 5% chance of beating Joshua plain and simple....no balance , can’t fight going back , no jab , no left hand and has never been in the ring with someone as powerful and accurate as Joshua .....wilder would be brutalised and stopped as soon as Joshua caught him clean
    Dominic Breazeale. He took several of Joshua's shots and survived for 7 rounds. It took just one of Wilder's shots to KO him. If he was a tomato can, how come it took Joshua so long to get rid of a tomato can?

    Wilder has a decent jab. Sure, he ain't good fighting going back (let's see if he learnt or adjusted) but to make him fight going back, you need to be aggressive and give a few while taking a few. Can Joshua take a few of Wilder's shots? Surely, he won't be dodging them as well as Fury did. He couldn't even make Ruiz fight going back and he is smaller and not a KO artist. Also, Joshua is not a 6'9" 270+ lb guy.

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  • Boxingfanatic75
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    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

    Joshua has fought more top-10 opponents than Fury and Wilder put together. Please explain again how Fury is an elite level fighter. Fury also has zero title defenses, only one belt and is 5 years ahead of Joshua in his career....
    That’s truly not saying a whole lot considering the HW division is a complete dumpster fire of trash division. It’s the weakest it has been in over 40 years. ANY top 15 from the mid 80s, early 90s and late 90s and into 2000 would absolutely mop up the HW division today. This era is comparable to the Holmes reign era and I’d even consider this weaker than that.
    Last edited by Boxingfanatic75; 06-21-2021, 10:15 PM.

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  • Boxingfanatic75
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    Originally posted by Monzon99 View Post
    The day will never come because wilder is rigged fraud pretender. All of his fights are rigged in one way or another. That's why his masters won't sacrifice him to AJ - they know he will be ten counted and his career would be over. SO they just pretend to want AJ, even when the $120m offer comes, they run away like the lying rat cowards they are. Haymon thinks he can rig wilder back into prominence and big money with another fake fury fight. which if it sells big they will do another. if they make big money with this next fury skit BS, then they can keep ducking AJ. But if wilder fury 3 fake draw fails they will have to sacrifice fraud wilder to AJ.

    AJ knows all this, so does Hearn. so the only way to force wilder vs AJ is to boycott wilder vs fury 3 fake fight.
    The 120 mil wasn’t even guaranteed and it was a three fight deal. Wilder turned it down knowing the fight with AJ itself could make far more than 120 mil over two fights. At that time he would have been an idiot to have signed such a deal. In addition no one is a “coward” there tough guy; not AJ, not Wilder, not Fury. That’s fan boi hero worship talk. NO BOXER who laces them up and steps into a ring risking their lives every second is a “coward.” GTFO here with that bulls h i t talk.

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  • aboutfkntime
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    Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

    This makes no sense. By definition, a tomato can doesn't revenge a loss with a shutout victory in a rematch. A tomato can isn't a unified belt holder.

    And Joshua lost to Ruiz because the ref waved off the fight. TKO, not a KO.





    AJ lost to Ruiz because he was not mentally prepared, and could not deal with the fighter that was in front of him on that night

    lets not start blurting out silly excuses, like Wilder did

    AJ should not be talking like he beat Wilder lol

    he was nowhere near that confident when he got presented with TWO golden opportunities to fight Wilder







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  • JDBarrett
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    Of the trio, Fury, AJ & Wilder, I think Furys the most skilled. AJ is second. Wilder wouldnt be third but Im only counting three. He has a huge equalizer in a right hand. Yeah, he needs only land it, but Idk if he'll win the trilogy fight. It would take a LOT, and who knows if he can. I dont think, though, if he beats Fury he will beat AJ. AJ is no great tactician, either, but he's far superior to Wilder. Id like to see Wilder win it, for his redemptions sake, but Idk if he can..hes gotten by on that big right, but Fury took it out of the equation. I can guarantee one thing: though, if Fury wins, no matter how he wins, Wilder will not take the defeat graciously.

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  • Monty Fisto
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    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
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    no... you are one of the Tomato cans that Andy Ruiz knocked out








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    This makes no sense. By definition, a tomato can doesn't revenge a loss with a shutout victory in a rematch. A tomato can isn't a unified belt holder.

    And Joshua lost to Ruiz because the ref waved off the fight. TKO, not a KO.
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  • greeneye99
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    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
    Man, you were beaten like a dog by small fat Mexican.
    And Wilder was beaten like a dog by a tall fat English man
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  • aboutfkntime
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    Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
    wilder has a 5% chance of beating Joshua plain and simple....no balance , can’t fight going back , no jab , no left hand and has never been in the ring with someone as powerful and accurate as Joshua .....wilder would be brutalised and stopped as soon as Joshua caught him clean







    that is a fkn ridiculous thing to say


    if Wilder lands betsy on AJ... he will lose that fight right then and there


    almost every opponent - if not every opponent - hit AJ with his best punch... Ruiz hit AJ with ALL of his best punches


    in the Ruiz fight... AJ looked a little bit brittle, and he looked mentally weak... AJ is definitely NOT Tyson Fury


    AJ could be ahead 11-0 and lose to Wilder in the last round


    50/50








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  • aboutfkntime
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    Joshua on Wilder: He's Not Elite Level, I'm Not One of The Tomato Cans He's Knocked Out



    no... you are one of the Tomato cans that Andy Ruiz knocked out








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  • Corelone
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    July 24 cant get here fast enough. I think somebody gets hurt. Lets see how AJ feels July 25.

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