Comments Thread For: Joshua on Wilder: He's Not Elite Level, I'm Not One of The Tomato Cans He's Knocked Out

[Roberto Vasquez]

That’s truly not saying a whole lot considering the HW division is a complete dumpster fire of trash division. It’s the weakest it has been in over 40 years. ANY top 15 from the mid 80s, early 90s and late 90s and into 2000 would absolutely mop up the HW division today. This era is comparable to the Holmes reign era and I’d even consider this weaker than that.

So where does that leave Fury - fighting boxers outside the top-20 or top 30? Name the top 5 boxers he beat

[Monzon99]

Wow and I thought heavens gate was a tin foil cult brigade.

you have no idea how much of a fraud wilder is.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Stop
talking about when most them are not even born so you've just said nonsense.. he has beaten most top 10 of his era period and most of 80s era are cheaters and most on drugs

Top 10 in era hogwash! Ever wonder why Holmes doesn’t get the respect many believe he deserves? Because he fought in an era when HW was a weak trash division. It’s no different here. This division during this time is as weak if not weaker than that time. And you believe this generation isn’t filled with drug cheats? I’ve got a bridge to sell ya in Brooklyn.

[Boxingfanatic75]

wilder is a coward fraud pretender protected by the us establishment. He's had all rigged fights except for Fury 2. he knows AJ and Whyte and Usyk would eat him alive so he has to keep ducking like the fraud coward pretender he is.

Wilder had no leverage or drawing power on his own to be calling any shots. he only possessed a corrupt wbc belt bought by cheating and corruption off don king and his patsy stiverne and protected by sulaiman by blocking out mandatory challenger Dillian Whyte.

Wow and I thought heavens gate was a tin foil cult brigade.

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Some are saying Fury was out of shape for Wilder I, but would an out of shape fighter have been able to get up after being on his back hearing birdies tweet and survive the 12th round? Some are saying Fury is the greatest boxer out there and he proved it when he came to Wilder II in shape and knocked him out with devastating punches. But where was that punching power in the Wallin fight that immediately preceded Wilder II. He desperately needed a KO there and could barely get Wallin's attention. A stoppage in that fight could easily have been justified. Then look at tape of Wilder II. The pushing, shoving, open-handed palm strikes to the ear and punches to the back of the head. The holding and hitting. Fury came in and totally surprised Wilder with his strategy, used every dirty trick in the book, and Wilder was over-run, with the help of an apathetic ref who didn't say a word about Fury's illegal tactics. Hell, even Ali used to get warned about striking with an open glove. Surprise attacks don't work twice and there could be a surprise finish in Wilder III. I sure hope so because Fury is a very boring fighter to watch and Joshua isn't a whole lot better.(See Ruiz II)

Wow, there's so much wrong with this post it's difficult to know where to begin.

Fury looked weak against Wallin because he was drained, hence why he changed trainer and his entire training regime straight after the fight. Regardless, Fury still won pretty much every round against him despite only having one eye. Wallin isn't a bum either, he's very good.

Wilder was just as dirty as Fury was, he was constantly hitting on the break and rabbit punching, and as for the ref not saying a word, did you even watch the fight? He was constantly on Fury's case and even took a point off him.

Wilder simply doesn't know how to fight on the back foot against a 6ft9 280lb Tyson Fury walking him down, hence why Fury made him look like a bum.

[The plunger man]

Wilder did not get battered around the ring by a guy who is shaped like a bowling ball... AJ did

like I said... AJ looked a brittle in that fight, and he is obviously mentally weak... lets face it, he quit





Q. why couldn't AJ knock Ruiz out in the rematch ?
A. because he can't fight going backwards either... he ran for most of that fight

if Wilder lands betsy... that boy is gonna wake up 5 minutes later and ask Hearn who won lol

let's face it, this conversation is moot... because AJ already ducked Wilder twice, he obviously will never take that fight

that fight will end up on that HUGE "what-if" list you started for Golovkin... why you always back guys who talk more than they fight






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he won it back convincingly it’s as simple as that...schooled him and Ruiz never won a round......wilder was even with spilka , duhaupas , getting outboxed by Washington and was saved against Ortiz ......as I said when it comes to ducking wilder turned down his career highest purse....facts don’t lie

[Monty Fisto]

AJ lost to Ruiz because he was not mentally prepared, and could not deal with the fighter that was in front of him on that night

lets not start blurting out silly excuses, like Wilder did

AJ should not be talking like he beat Wilder lol

he was nowhere near that confident when he got presented with TWO golden opportunities to fight Wilder






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I gave no silly excuses, because I gave no excuses. I stated pure fact. The ref waved off the fight. It was a TKO. You should have no issue with someone citing documented fact.

[aboutfkntime]

wilder would not see past 5 rounds.....he can’t fight going backwards , has a suspect chin , has no left hand , no jab and bad balance , Joshua can knock you out with either left hand or right , uppercut , hook and combinations ....wilder has just 1 honey punch and history dictates the fighter with the bigger array of punches wins 9 times out of 10.
joshua has beaten klitchcko , whyte , povetkin , pulev , Parker and is about to face of with usyk and also beat him....wilder sc****d by Ortiz and has lost to every other decent fighter he has faced except for a lucky home cooked draw....end of subject dummy lol

Wilder did not get battered around the ring by a guy who is shaped like a bowling ball... AJ did

like I said... AJ looked a brittle in that fight, and he is obviously mentally weak... lets face it, he quit

" Joshua can knock you out with either left hand or right "

Q. why couldn't AJ knock Ruiz out in the rematch ?
A. because he can't fight going backwards either... he ran for most of that fight

if Wilder lands betsy... that boy is gonna wake up 5 minutes later and ask Hearn who won lol

let's face it, this conversation is moot... because AJ already ducked Wilder twice, he obviously will never take that fight

that fight will end up on that HUGE "what-if" list you started for Golovkin... why you always back guys who talk more than they fight






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[Nightfall]

We know, but you're the tomato can that got stopped by Ruiz.

[The plunger man]

There is a reason why both wilder and fury have run away from the career highest purses.......facts don’t lie and even wilder openly admitted he turned down his biggest ever purse to fight fury for less....to the tune of 60 odd million lol
as for fury he would have made 100 million in August and now he will make no more than 25 million because again numbers don’t lie