say what you want about wilder...

[Curt Henning]

Red - Exactly. So belts aren't so useless after all, no matter who has it because undisputed usually brings more shine unless you were a star already. Wilder wasn't a star already. You saw how AJ star kept growing as he got the belts. Those beltholders were weak but Wilder wasn't fighting better competition at that time.

didnt say they were useless....at all...just said they arent all that necessary or great if no one values the guy you took it off....and no one really valued stiverne either....but wilder went and grabbed the belt he deemed most useful or important....and that was good enough....if it were important they would have chased the other belts....haymon and finkel would have tried...they didnt need to

ajs star was going to grow either way....but it helped that AJ was big enough that they could overpay guys like parker and martin.....people need to realize AJ is the star he is because of what country he reps...if wilder were british hed have been in AJs shoes...AJ hasnt done anything special.....AJ hasnt done anything transcendent.....right guy in the right place....if AJ were american hed be wilder.....

[siablo14]

didnt say they were useless....at all...just said they arent all that necessary or great if no one values the guy you took it off....and no one really valued stiverne either....but wilder went and grabbed the belt he deemed most useful or important....and that was good enough....if it were important they would have chased the other belts....haymon and finkel would have tried...they didnt need to

ajs star was going to grow either way....but it helped that AJ was big enough that they could overpay guys like parker and martin.....people need to realize AJ is the star he is because of what country he reps...if wilder were british hed have been in AJs shoes...AJ hasnt done anything special.....AJ hasnt done anything transcendent.....right guy in the right place....if AJ were american hed be wilder.....

So AJ was the bigger star from the jump?

AJ was Olympic champ it wasn't just because he was Brit.

So Wilder was stalling when has asking for 50/50?

[Curt Henning]

So AJ was the bigger star from the jump?

AJ was Olympic champ it wasn't just because he was Brit.

So Wilder was stalling when has asking for 50/50?

ughh...debating with you brittards is quite a task and its not because youre bright lol..i didnt say AJ was olympic champ because he was a brit...but add being olympic champ and a brit and winning it in london and you have a star in the making since brit is a boxing crazed country

you play the salad game....now because i said AJ is/was a bigger star that somehow means wilder was ducking asking for 50/50 lol.....wilder had the wbc belt...the last piece of undisputed that AJ needed...and wilders star was rising and there was a huge demand/want from the sport for them to meet....AJ is the bigger star but 50/50 was reasonable...at least a starting point.....wilder goes high and if hearn and AJ wanted the fight they would have actually tried to make a reasonable one...but they didnt.....it got so bad that guy from DAZN tried to meet with wilder without hearn....because he knew what hearn was doing and how he was jerking team wilder around....wilder put out a starting point and team hearn wanted no part....flat fees? lol....

what about when AJ said "show me 50 million" and was shown it then said "i wont sell my soul for 50 million"...lol...are you going to deny that barry hearn said "id advise to stay away from wilder for a few years"? lol....listen i dont even know how we got here....i dont feel like rehashing that whole scenario again because youve got your twisted eddie hearn story that youll go by when the rest of the world knows who was avoiding who.....its all good tho....have a good one and take care....stay delusional.....fury and wilder are fighting again....and AJ has fought neither of them

[siablo14]

ughh...debating with you brittards is quite a task and its not because youre bright lol..i didnt say AJ was olympic champ because he was a brit...but add being olympic champ and a brit and winning it in london and you have a star in the making since brit is a boxing crazed country

you play the salad game....now because i said AJ is/was a bigger star that somehow means wilder was ducking asking for 50/50 lol.....wilder had the wbc belt...the last piece of undisputed that AJ needed...and wilders star was rising and there was a huge demand/want from the sport for them to meet....AJ is the bigger star but 50/50 was reasonable...at least a starting point.....wilder goes high and if hearn and AJ wanted the fight they would have actually tried to make a reasonable one...but they didnt.....it got so bad that guy from DAZN tried to meet with wilder without hearn....because he knew what hearn was doing and how he was jerking team wilder around....wilder put out a starting point and team hearn wanted no part....flat fees? lol....

what about when AJ said "show me 50 million" and was shown it then said "i wont sell my soul for 50 million"...lol...are you going to deny that barry hearn said "id advise to stay away from wilder for a few years"? lol....listen i dont even know how we got here....i dont feel like rehashing that whole scenario again because youve got your twisted eddie hearn story that youll go by when the rest of the world knows who was avoiding who.....its all good tho....have a good one and take care....stay delusional.....fury and wilder are fighting again....and AJ has fought neither of them

Red - Because Wilder trying to cash out.

[thetruthteller]

Beyonce has been filmed twerking like 6 times lol

Only a few weeks and it'll all be over thank God

Right. I figured you could not answer the questions. I hope the fight is a good one with a clear winner. And I hope the winner has the balls to face AJ for unification.

[Curt Henning]

Red - Because Wilder trying to cash out.

was wilder trying to cash out when AJ was on camera saying "show me 50 million" and team wilder showed him 50 mil and he said "i wont sell my soul for 50 million" was that wilder cashing out? lol

wilder isnt "cashing out"...hes made a ton of money fighting ortiz again, breazeale and fury....there is no cash out here....its the fight he has to take....if he was trying to cash out hed be asking for step aside money to let AJ and fury fight...its the furthest thing from a cash out but i wouldnt expect anything less from low iq tards like yourself....lol@calling this fight a cash out ...it truly shows had low you will go.....holy crap you guys are unreal

[siablo14]

was wilder trying to cash out when AJ was on camera saying "show me 50 million" and team wilder showed him 50 mil and he said "i wont sell my soul for 50 million" was that wilder cashing out? lol

wilder isnt "cashing out"...hes made a ton of money fighting ortiz again, breazeale and fury....there is no cash out here....its the fight he has to take....if he was trying to cash out hed be asking for step aside money to let AJ and fury fight...its the furthest thing from a cash out but i wouldnt expect anything less from low iq tards like yourself....lol@calling this fight a cash out ...it truly shows had low you will go.....holy crap you guys are unreal

Cash out. Watch him sit out for long after this beating.
I would say you have/had a low boxing spectator IQ for believing Wilder was gonna rule the division.

[Curt Henning]

Cash out. Watch him sit out for long after this beating.
I would say you have/had a low boxing spectator IQ for believing Wilder was gonna rule the division.

if he takes a beating he might retire.....that doesnt mean this is a cash out fight....at all...its not even close....but wilder is 35 years old almost 36...

if wilder wanted to "cash out" hed ask for step aside money....fight some easy KO victim and wait and play if safe for a winner between fury/AJ.....thats one route....the other is to do what hes doing......the fact that you call it a cash out shows what an imbecile you truly are....

and wilder was close to ruling the division...he put fury on the floor twice....did u see wilder getting beat up by a 6 ft tub of lard with short arms and slow feet? i know who i saw that happen to....and then he needed a big ring so he could run from that guy in the rematch who was even more fat and out of shape than he normally is! lol....FOH guy....

[siablo14]

if he takes a beating he might retire.....that doesnt mean this is a cash out fight....at all...its not even close....but wilder is 35 years old almost 36...

if wilder wanted to "cash out" hed ask for step aside money....fight some easy KO victim and wait and play if safe for a winner between fury/AJ.....thats one route....the other is to do what hes doing......the fact that you call it a cash out shows what an imbecile you truly are....

and wilder was close to ruling the division...he put fury on the floor twice....did u see wilder getting beat up by a 6 ft tub of lard with short arms and slow feet? i know who i saw that happen to....and then he needed a big ring so he could run from that guy in the rematch who was even more fat and out of shape than he normally is! lol....FOH guy....

There is no bigger fight for Wilder now.

AJ won the rematch and is back on top with his three belts and was headed for undisputed. Wilder wasn't close to ruling the division. He lost the first fight too. FOH with trying to belittle AJ's bounce back.

[Boxing-1013]

I can easily ignore it. It was the worst, most boring championship fight I have ever seen. It was even worse than a John Ruiz fight back in the day. Also, Fury was on steroids so there should be an asterisk beside the fight.

I don't think it was a 'stellar' performance either, but he did neutralize Wlad for 12 rounds and was the first and only one to ever really do it