say what you want about wilder...

[Curt Henning]

Brits and Euros been dominating heavies since Lennox.

Fury will be your favourite. Wilder is done with. America doesn't have any heavies. They are washed up.

I'm sorry for your loss. It had to have hurt a lot.

Who is your favourite WW?

kell brook is my fave WW...hes also obviously the best

[siablo14]

kell brook is my fave WW...hes also obviously the best

You reek of that anti-Brit drip. Put semantics aside and answer truthfully.

[kafkod]

hahahahah everything i said there is a FACT....are you telling me i made up the story about barry hearn advising AJ to avoid wilder? because its widely known

are you telling me i made up AJ saying "show me 50 mil and you have a fight" then turning around and saying "i wont sell my soul for 50 million dollars"?

are you telling me i making it up that AJ hasnt fought wilder or fury yet wilder and fury are about to fight for the 3rd time?

THESE ARE ALL FACTS WITH QUOTES TO BACK THEM UP ........how sad can you be? lol....yikes man....talk about desperate

Get back to me when you are willing to talk facts, not spin and bull****.

[Curt Henning]

You reek of that anti-Brit drip. Put semantics aside and answer truthfully.

im not anti brit at all...just anti brittard fan....case in point...look no further than this idiot kafkod or whatever his name is...ive presented him with facts and actual quotes and hes still in denial and trying to tell me im making things up....when im providing actual facts and quotes that can be found....

my fave WW would probably be spence but theres alot of good ones out there with ortiz and ennis up and coming.....i have no beef with brook he isnt/wasnt bad....but you wouldnt see me out there like "england has no WWs hahaha brook and khan suck"....cause i dont really care ....some of you are so desperate....like just give wilder a little bit of respect...try that for once....like i get it...wilder made some weird excuses...he might be a little strange ....but hes dangerous and has been fun to watch.....thats why old barry advised avoiding him for a few years...or am i making that up?!?! lol....the inferiority complex some of you guys show on a regular basis is startling

[siablo14]

im not anti brit at all...just anti brittard fan....case in point...look no further than this idiot kafkod or whatever his name is...ive presented him with facts and actual quotes and hes still in denial and trying to tell me im making things up....when im providing actual facts and quotes that can be found....

my fave WW would probably be spence but theres alot of good ones out there with ortiz and ennis up and coming.....i have no beef with brook he isnt/wasnt bad....but you wouldnt see me out there like "england has no WWs hahaha brook and khan suck"....cause i dont really care ....some of you are so desperate....like just give wilder a little bit of respect...try that for once....like i get it...wilder made some weird excuses...he might be a little strange ....but hes dangerous and has been fun to watch.....thats why old barry advised avoiding him for a few years...or am i making that up?!?! lol....the inferiority complex some of you guys show on a regular basis is startling

Nah man. I couldn't get behind Wilder because I knew once a skilled boxer was able to outbox him and make it to 12 rounds it would be a wrap for him plus he wasn't really stepping to the other beltholders like AJ was.

Same for Crawford, I am working with him currently because I see the pickle he is in but if he puts himself back in that pickle, I am done with him. I am team Spence till the end though.

[Curt Henning]

Nah man. I couldn't get behind Wilder because I knew once a skilled boxer was able to outbox him and make it to 12 rounds it would be a wrap for him plus he wasn't really stepping to the other beltholders like AJ was.

Same for Crawford, I am working with him currently because I see the pickle he is in but if he puts himself back in that pickle, I am done with him. I am team Spence till the end though.

alot of wilders "fans" knew a skilled boxer would probably be able to outbox him.....but even that skilled boxer looked like he was crusing and then "blam" he was on his back and nearly out....im still not sure how fury pulled himself up and finished strong....but thats the beauty of wilder...its not pretty....its unconventional but he usually lands his shot at some point.........the sport, and life in general, would be boring if every fighter were the same.....you dont have to get behind wilder....its cool...i get it....but at least have a bit of respect for him....he tried to get AJ fight for awhile....he then went to fury....and he wanted to rematch fury immediately but bob arum made him wait.....hes delivered highlight reel KOs and is still dangerous....not asking anyone to be a fan or fall in love

stepping to the other beltholders is overrated if nobody really cares about or rates that beltholder....like beating joe parker and getting a belt is cool and all but does anyone really GAF...wilder had his wbc belt and he knew thats really all that was needed.....he got the fury fights and took on the big name and the man.....collecting alphabet trinkets is overrated unless people place value on the beltholder....parker was a beltholder but not someone people cared much about....thats my view/opinion anwyay......AJ, wilder and fury were the top 3 guys...the rest of them didnt really matter....

[siablo14]

alot of wilders "fans" knew a skilled boxer would probably be able to outbox him.....but even that skilled boxer looked like he was crusing and then "blam" he was on his back and nearly out....im still not sure how fury pulled himself up and finished strong....but thats the beauty of wilder...its not pretty....its unconventional but he usually lands his shot at some point.........the sport, and life in general, would be boring if every fighter were the same.....you dont have to get behind wilder....its cool...i get it....but at least have a bit of respect for him....he tried to get AJ fight for awhile....he then went to fury....and he wanted to rematch fury immediately but bob arum made him wait.....hes delivered highlight reel KOs and is still dangerous....not asking anyone to be a fan or fall in love

stepping to the other beltholders is overrated if nobody really cares about or rates that beltholder....like beating joe parker and getting a belt is cool and all but does anyone really GAF...wilder had his wbc belt and he knew thats really all that was needed.....he got the fury fights and took on the big name and the man.....collecting alphabet trinkets is overrated unless people place value on the beltholder....parker was a beltholder but not someone people cared much about....thats my view/opinion anwyay......AJ, wilder and fury were the top 3 guys...the rest of them didnt really matter....

Nah man. Belts are like rankings for me most of the time. If a beltholder is there and wants to fight you, go beat him. You act like Wilder was fighting better comp at the time. No he wasn't. So he should have been fighting those beltholders instead.

[Curt Henning]

Nah man. Belts are like rankings for me most of the time. If a beltholder is there and wants to fight you, go beat him. You act like Wilder was fighting better comp at the time. No he wasn't. So he should have been fighting those beltholders instead.

the belts are meaningless if nobody cares or rates the guys that hold them...i mean...charles martin a HW champ? lol...youre kidding right? like nobody cares...even joe parker? nobody cares....both guys won vacant belts and if ruiz hadnt embarrassed AJ nobody would even remember who parker and martin beat to get their "belts"...nobody really rates parker and martin

wilder got the belt he deemed most valuable and knew eventually if someone wants undisputed they have to go through him...its that simple....alphabet trinkets are meaningless unless people actually the rate the belt holder....thats just reality and youre being ridiculous if you suggest otherwise....

aj had it made for him....hes a brit olympian and theres big money in his business...so they were able to pay 6 mil for martin or whatever it was...something ridiculous....wilders side wasnt about to pay that at that time....same for parker...neither of them were worth that at the time for wilder so there was no sense in pursuing that because they werent about to beat hearns offers....the economics made little sense for wilder at that time and for hearn they did..its that simple....

im not just going to be impressed or blown away because some guy collected belts off of what pretty much everyone considers weak competition....it means little

[siablo14]

the belts are meaningless if nobody cares or rates the guys that hold them...i mean...charles martin a HW champ? lol...youre kidding right? like nobody cares...even joe parker? nobody cares....both guys won vacant belts and if ruiz hadnt embarrassed AJ nobody would even remember who parker and martin beat to get their "belts"...nobody really rates parker and martin

wilder got the belt he deemed most valuable and knew eventually if someone wants undisputed they have to go through him...its that simple....alphabet trinkets are meaningless unless people actually the rate the belt holder....thats just reality and youre being ridiculous if you suggest otherwise....

aj had it made for him....hes a brit olympian and theres big money in his business...so they were able to pay 6 mil for martin or whatever it was...something ridiculous....wilders side wasnt about to pay that at that time....same for parker...neither of them were worth that at the time for wilder so there was no sense in pursuing that because they werent about to beat hearns offers....the economics made little sense for wilder at that time and for hearn they did..its that simple....

im not just going to be impressed or blown away because some guy collected belts off of what pretty much everyone considers weak competition....it means little

Red - Exactly. So belts aren't so useless after all, no matter who has it because undisputed usually brings more shine unless you were a star already. Wilder wasn't a star already. You saw how AJ star kept growing as he got the belts. Those beltholders were weak but Wilder wasn't fighting better competition at that time.

[paulf]

Fury surprised Wilder with his game plan, caught him, stopped him.

Acting like Fury is now some god is a joke. Every possibility Wilder catches and KOs Fury in this third fight, which is why they were eager to bypass the third.

I will root against Wilder till the end of time for the **** he pulled after the second fight, but it is what it is.