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  • #21
    Looking forward to the trilogy. Hasn't been done by any heavyweight champion for a long time. A historic moment for the sport of boxing.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

      why hasnt AJ been able to make a fight with either wilder or fury yet?
      Lol ... where have you been for the last few months? Somewhere without TV, radio or internet?

      You didn't hear about the Fury vs AJ in Saudi Arabia saga? Or the arbitration case between Fury and Wilder that prevented Fury from fighting AJ?

      Presume you also missed this interesting message, from Wilder to Fury: "You know I was offered more money to fight Joshua than I got for fighting you"

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
        Wilder can absolutely beat Fury.

        Its unfortunate that Wilder’s weird behavior has made all the stories focus on his weird behavior.
        He's black doe, and he's from Alabama, so nobody's supposed to say anything about him also being a massive bell end.
        Last edited by kafkod; 06-19-2021, 03:26 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

          hahahah yeah...he just asked for a huge ring and then pot shotted and ran from the 25-1 underdog who is about 6 ft tall, with short arms and slow feet.....not to mention in terrible shape i might add....yeah AJ is a real warrior! lol what a feat!!!! hes amazing!

          soooo brave and courageous!!!

          funny that wilder and fury are now meeting for the 3rd time and have had little trouble getting the bouts done(wilder actually wanted an immediate rematch but bob made them wait) after the first one......why hasnt AJ been able to make a fight with either wilder or fury yet? im sure you have some sob story or excuses....but the reality is he avoided wilder and hearns own daddy told him to......
          This is what gets me too. I feel Wilder was full of **** after he lost but he's been pretty open about getting into the ring of mutually beneficial terms and ******** everything. My issue with Joshua is the weird underhanded excuses done for him. Suddenly the fight is in Saudi, suddenly its a massive ring, suddenly it turns out he had a "panic attack". Joshua just seems to me like the guy whose easy to like because he, fundamentally, has no influence over boxing. In twenty years time he'll likely just end up being someone everyone resents because he was ultimately controlled like a puppet by Hearn.

          Wilder is in many ways a tosser but he earned his place. He got onto the Olympic team, got a bronze medal indicative of the fact that he wasn't close to the best in the field and then earned his way fighting in halls. He apparently worked for budweiser and red lobster. A genuinely humble upbringing. Joshua largely had his career stage managed from 2010 and still managed to **** it up by getting caught with weed. His Olympic gold came via two very hokey home town decisions. It just feels like he's been chosen rather than really earned his place. One or the Mayweathers commented on it too.

          For me Wilder represents black excellence. The truly earned kind. Joshua represents the kind of image of a black man white people approve and tolerate. He will never have a fan in me provided that's the case.

          A lot of Joshua fans don't have particularly high opinions of black people...so why should I approve of that?? Because he's "one of the good blacks"?? **** outta here.
          Last edited by KingGilgamesh; 06-19-2021, 03:29 PM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Say what you want about Anthony Joshua, but after he lost to the tubby 25-1 underdog with short arms and slow feet he didn't make excuses, didn't throw his trainer under the bus, didn't accuse his opponent of cheating or talk about a racist conspiracy against black fighters. AJ took his defeat like a man, ****** up all the criticism and mockery, went away and trained like a trojan before coming back and regaining his titles.

            If Wilder loses to Fury again, but shows the same sportsmanship and dignity in defeat as AJ, he will regain a lot of the respect he lost because of his reprehensible behaviour after the last fight.
            there were tons of money behind joshua and I say they paid Ruiz to come in out of shape. in a corrupt sport nobody is as corrupt as rotten british boxing

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            • #26
              Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View Post

              This is what gets me too. I feel Wilder was full of **** after he lost but he's been pretty open about getting into the ring of mutually beneficial terms and ******** everything. My issue with Joshua is the weird underhanded excuses done for him. Suddenly the fight is in Saudi, suddenly its a massive ring, suddenly it turns out he had a "panic attack". Joshua just seems to me like the guy whose easy to like because he, fundamentally, has no influence over boxing. In twenty years time he'll likely just end up being someone everyone resents because he was ultimately controlled like a puppet by Hearn.

              Wilder is in many ways a tosser but he earned his place. He got onto the Olympic team, got a bronze medal indicative of the fact that he wasn't close to the best in the field and then earned his way fighting in halls. He apparently worked for budweiser and red lobster. A genuinely humble upbringing. Joshua largely had his career stage managed from 2010 and still managed to **** it up by getting caught with weed. His Olympic gold came via two very hokey home town decisions. It just feels like he's been chosen rather than really earned his place. One or the Mayweathers commented on it too.

              For me Wilder represents black excellence. The truly earned kind. Joshua represents the kind of image of a black man white people approve and tolerate. He will never have a fan in me provided that's the case.

              A lot of Joshua fans don't have particularly high opinions of black people...so why should I approve of that?? Because he's "one of the good blacks"?? **** outta here.
              the word humble and wilder dont go together and if you think wilder represents black excellence you are demented and insane

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              • #27
                Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post

                there were tons of money behind joshua and I say they paid Ruiz to come in out of shape. in a corrupt sport nobody is as corrupt as rotten british boxing
                . . . . .

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                • #28
                  Problem is Fury is virtually invincible

                  Wilder has hit him with his best punches and Fury didn't care

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

                    How can you ignore Fury's performance vs Wlad though
                    I can easily ignore it. It was the worst, most boring championship fight I have ever seen. It was even worse than a John Ruiz fight back in the day. Also, Fury was on steroids so there should be an asterisk beside the fight.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post

                      the word humble and wilder dont go together and if you think wilder represents black excellence you are demented and insane
                      It's about success.

                      And I said humble beginnings. I never said Wilder was humble. Lol that's it.

                      Not everyone who earns their place needs to be humble to earn it. That's what you don't ****ing understand.

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