Comments Thread For: De La Hoya-Canelo Rivalry Takes New Turn With Vegas Logjam In September

[Jab jab boom]

Oh look it's the same gimp that can't keep Canelo out of his head. Been living in his head rent free for a while now.

Gayweathers record is fabricated and a farce. Plus he licks men's balls. Possibly tweenks too. How old was Justin Beiber when they were photographed naked in the hotel?

there is nothing in Tito or Vargas' arsenal that would come close to hurting Canelo. If GGG never stunned Canelo, neither of them would come close to it. And they sure as hell wouldn't outbox Canelo.

Mayweather record is fabricated… cool but why isn’t Canelo’s? And both Trinidad and Vargas would whoop canelo. Unlike canelo, they weren’t scared to fight top guys in their prime. Your highlight for canelo is him getting a gift over a 36 yr old ggg. You’re one blinded by love fan boy. A grown man with an avatar of another grown man who exemplifies everything you criticize mayweather for. Hypocrite.

[batista84]

this is interesting. I guess I'm rooting for Oscar de la hoya but barely since I think Canelo career has been one of fraud and ducking, but i guess thanks in large part to golden boy and de la hoya. Canelo didn't have to go along with it tho.

Fraud and Ducking? ok............

[batista84]

I don't recall ODLH being a drug cheat. And Delahoyas resume absolutely destroys Canelos..

No, it doesn't.

Haven't made a breakdown of his career as it takes a lot of time and effort but I will say that Canelo's career in terms of numbers and statistics is reaching almost Floyd Mayweather status, now, I don't know how many champions and former champions DLH beat as Floyd's has one of the best resumes all time but If DLH has better numbers than Floyd which I doubt it then he would be only slightly above Canelo's.

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Mayweather record is fabricated… cool but why isn’t Canelo’s? And both Trinidad and Vargas would whoop canelo. Unlike canelo, they weren’t scared to fight top guys in their prime. Your highlight for canelo is him getting a gift over a 36 yr old ggg. You’re one blinded by love fan boy. A grown man with an avatar of another grown man who exemplifies everything you criticize mayweather for. Hypocrite.

How would Trinidad and Vargas beat Canelo? Please explain.

[batista84]

Agreed, In their primes DLH defeats Canelo and relatively easily. I will also add that Trinidad would have as well. In fact with his piston jab, Canelo vs Quartey would have been interesting. Whitaker also beats Canelo easily.

1 (DLH) - Alvarez prime is 160-168 which doesn't match with DLH's prime at lower weights, hipotethical matchup would've happened at 154-160 which were weight divisions where DLH didn't look dominant and where the only guys he defeated where: Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, Sturm, Mayorga and Forbes. If you by some unthinkable reason think Alvarez 154 is worse than one of those guys then you are out of your mind. At 160 Canelo would've beat DLH no freaking doubt about it.

2 (Trinidad) - Don't see how a guy who looked so small and innefective against Winky at 154 would've had any success against a guy who went toe to toe with a so much stronger and harder puncher MW all time like GGG. I think you either just talking straight from your heart, or you lack some sweet science knowledge.

3 (Quartey) - Comparable to the two guys before, we talking about a guy who did not do anything at 154-160, and he doesn't hit harder than GGG, we can't probe that but it's what common sense tells.

4 (Whitaker) - I hold Sweet Pea to a different standard than the other 3 dudes I just mentioned because I think Phernell is an ATG and was, is and will be one of the best pure boxers that ever existed, and a top 3 defensive fighter all time, I think Phernell would've outboxed him however the only problem I got with this statement is Phernell is a 147 ATG, like I said Prime Canelo is 160-168, I do rate Phernell as a more skilled fighter than Canelo but if you know the sweet science you have to admit that Canelo is one of the most complete fighters and is a terrific skilled fighter aswell so I wouldn't say he outboxes him easily but a fight at 154 I would've picked Phernell to outbox him in a close match.

I know you an Alvarez hater, like so many others on this site, I won't never make a hater a believer, because it's not on your nature to recognize someone who you don't like,. but I like to put these statements out so everyone else can see how sometimes "these weaks" arguments are. You don't believe what you said but you had to say it because that's is the role you follow in here, cheers.

[batista84]

How would Trinidad and Vargas beat Canelo? Please explain.

That dude is a straight hater, he doesn't even believe what he says. Stopped paying attention to his ridiculous posts as you will only find him on Canelo's threads.

[El_Maldito_Rey]

That dude is a straight hater, he doesn't even believe what he says. Stopped paying attention to his ridiculous posts as you will only find him on Canelo's threads.

Agreed, I know he's a hater and an imbecile, I don't even know why I respond to his posts.

Notice how he went silent after Canelo/Saunders, then started popping up again in Canelo threads just recently. Dude can't go a post or two without mentioning Canelo. Just yesterday, in a thread that had nothing to do with Canelo, he brought him up. I've deliberately didn't bring up Canelo when I've debated him in other threads, and he's the one that kept bringing him up. Dude is obsessed with Canelo. He may not be a fan, but he sure is obsessed.

[Jab jab boom]

How would Trinidad and Vargas beat Canelo? Please explain.

Without getting into too many specifics, their work rates would be too much for Canelo’s who likes to have a low Punch output. Canelo only looks good against guys who are tentative and don’t like to punch with him, Vargas and Trinidad would have a high work rate and punch with him consistently. Canelo’s stamina seems to fade towards the end whereas especially Trinidad stamina improves towards the end of a fight. Canelo didn’t even have the stamina to keep up with a 36-year-old GGG and lost the championship round of both of his fights with him. So now that I answered your question, you can answer mine. How is it that Mayweather’s résumé is fabricated but Canelos is it? Seeing as you criticize mayweather for the same exact things that Canelo does but worse.

[GhostofDempsey]

I can see these fights doing about equal PPV numbers. Oscar will have help from the MMA fanbase buying his fight as well.

[Oldskoolg]

1 (DLH) - Alvarez prime is 160-168 which doesn't match with DLH's prime at lower weights, hipotethical matchup would've happened at 154-160 which were weight divisions where DLH didn't look dominant and where the only guys he defeated where: Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, Sturm, Mayorga and Forbes. If you by some unthinkable reason think Alvarez 154 is worse than one of those guys then you are out of your mind. At 160 Canelo would've beat DLH no freaking doubt about it.

2 (Trinidad) - Don't see how a guy who looked so small and innefective against Winky at 154 would've had any success against a guy who went toe to toe with a so much stronger and harder puncher MW all time like GGG. I think you either just talking straight from your heart, or you lack some sweet science knowledge.

3 (Quartey) - Comparable to the two guys before, we talking about a guy who did not do anything at 154-160, and he doesn't hit harder than GGG, we can't probe that but it's what common sense tells.

4 (Whitaker) - I hold Sweet Pea to a different standard than the other 3 dudes I just mentioned because I think Phernell is an ATG and was, is and will be one of the best pure boxers that ever existed, and a top 3 defensive fighter all time, I think Phernell would've outboxed him however the only problem I got with this statement is Phernell is a 147 ATG, like I said Prime Canelo is 160-168, I do rate Phernell as a more skilled fighter than Canelo but if you know the sweet science you have to admit that Canelo is one of the most complete fighters and is a terrific skilled fighter aswell so I wouldn't say he outboxes him easily but a fight at 154 I would've picked Phernell to outbox him in a close match.

I know you an Alvarez hater, like so many others on this site, I won't never make a hater a believer, because it's not on your nature to recognize someone who you don't like,. but I like to put these statements out so everyone else can see how sometimes "these weaks" arguments are. You don't believe what you said but you had to say it because that's is the role you follow in here, cheers.

Who did you feel you have to show how “these weaks” arguments are? Strange comment. And no I’m not a Canelo hater I just don’t hold him in the same regard as you do. But if that makes me a “hater” to you then so be it because that isn’t going to change until he beats the beat fighters and without gift decisions.