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  • #61
    Originally posted by GucciGod View Post

    Babic chisora would be great, now I think of it, I cannot believe that thought had never entered my mind before! Would be FIREWORKS.
    Yes, I only thought of it recently. We know Chisora can hang at world-level, and has been hard done by a few times, and Babic is doing all asked of him at domestic level, plus Babic is younger and fresher, but Chisora is still tough, and style wise, it couldn't not be a war. They will just go toe to toe like Chisora vs Whyte 1. And we'll see just how good Babic is as it's hard to tell his level right now. Perfect fight that will interest fans.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by GucciGod View Post

      Lol, If Del Boy would of had his hand raised that night with Usyk, Joshua wouldn’t of even spoke to fury, we would have Joshua - chisora on PPV. I can’t believe you wanted that rubbish. Come on man, you really wanted to see chisora vs aj? You are Wildin

      you say he “smoked” Usyk, but last I remembered both guys ended the fight upright and it went to points? I don’t think anybody got smoked buddy, but hey, who am I to tell an uneducated casual fan about boxing! I am just a moron!!
      AJ and Chisora will never fight in the ring.

      Where do you clowns get this nonsense from? Hearn the mouthy bellend?

      I'm sure some of you still think Hearn owns Josh even now that it's glaring with Hearn's DAZN deal.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Corelone View Post
        If rematch clauses are so common, where are they? Can somebody show me anybody else enforcing a rematch claus? I'll wait.
        Fury and Wilder just had multiple rematch clauses and a new one again their 3rd fight.

        Mayweather never fought without a rematch clause ditto Wlad.

        Canelo has a rematch clause for all his fights.

        It comes with the territory as a cash cow.

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        • #64
          No way. Myself and Rexy called it. It was why it took long for them to finalise the deal. These corrupt governing bodies need to take ownership and put their foot down. You cannot be a champion and then be throwing out rematch clauses on your mandatory. They should NOT be allowed, not sure which champion started it but Team Joshua are taking it to extra levels with this shit. And it doesn’t help a champion if he is losing, he would just quit and be like “Oh well I have a rematch clause”

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Tonyu View Post
            Hearn and Joshua are a joke this is becoming ******. So forget Fury next and poor Joyce has to wait a year if not 2 as they will fight Ussyk again in December then Fury July and December and the whole Heavyweight Division waits on Joshua because Hearn thinks Joshua owns the Heavyweight Division, so much for Hearn having faith in Joshua's abilities. I've said time and again this will carry on until the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO state you can't fight consecutive title shots if you lose you need 2 more wins to get another opportunity. Hearn is making a mockery of the sport I love even Whyte gets rematch clauses as proved in the Povetkin fight. Hearn needs to leave this sport his an absolute joke. Joshua needs to man up and stop this as well.
            Poor Joyce has an option to fight Hrgovic - why's he running like a beetch?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Tonyu View Post

              Firstly stop blaspheming. If you actually read for a minute what I wrote, because every fight Joshua has has a rematch clause, thats the lack of confidence Hearn has in Joshua. The Heavyweight Division is on hold because of this. No fighter owns the sport after Joshua the sport remains. It's a mockery because they only fight once or twice a year. It's not fair on fighters like Joyce who have to wait this out then most probably wait on fight l with Fury which will be a 2 fight deal. So stop getting your knickers in a twiist because others have a different point of view.
              The division is NOT on hold due to that. If he isn’t fighting his mandatories then he would be holding the division and belts hostage. We know where the belts are, and he is fulfilling his mandatories. The issue is the governing bodies.

              He has fulfill his WBO mandatory (Pulev), IBF would be Usyk, then the WBA is next (Last mandatory was Povetkin in 2018), so they should be calling that soon. If he loses to Usyk then the WBA need to remove their belt and get their mandatory out of the way via the number 1 & 2 guys.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                February 25, 1964, it was discovered that the two boxers had a contract which gave Inter-Continental Promotions, Inc., a firm organized to promote Liston's fights, the right to promote Ali's first fight as champion—if he should beat Liston—and pick his opponent (Liston, of course).

                https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/M...n_(2nd_meeting)

                Leonard- Duran rematch clause. Pick any link you like. https://www.google.com/search?q=ray+...4dUDCBE&uact=5

                Anymore nonsense mr boxingfanatic?
                how convenient not to include the rest of that quote Bobby boy. “This was in a second contract, kept secret and not part of the main fight contract. It was phrased as it was because the World Boxing Association did not allow fight contracts with rematch clauses. Gordon B. Davidson, an attorney for the group sponsoring Ali, said, "We felt we would be better advised not to have a guaranteed rematch clause. We felt this was more in the spirit of the WBA rules than a direct rematch which was clearly outlawed." He agreed that it was "subterfuge."[44]When Ali and Liston signed to fight a rematch, the WBA voted unanimously to strip Ali of the title and drop Liston from its rankings.”


                SRL Duran

                ”The rematch, billed as "Stone vs. Sugar.. Once Again", took place November 25, 1980 at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans in front of 25,038 fans. Leonard received $7 million and Durán received $8 million.

                Dave Jacobs disagreed with the decision to have an immediate rematch with Durán and terminated his relationship with Leonard when the rematch was made. "My idea is that he should have a tuneup fight before he fights with Roberto again", Jacobs said. "I think he won the fight with Durán, but I don't think it is healthy for him to be fighting Durán right away".

                AKA an option to fight a rematch isn’t a contractual mandatory.

                Got anything else? Bobby boy?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

                  how convenient not to include the rest of that quote Bobby boy. “This was in a second contract, kept secret and not part of the main fight contract. It was phrased as it was because the World Boxing Association did not allow fight contracts with rematch clauses. Gordon B. Davidson, an attorney for the group sponsoring Ali, said, "We felt we would be better advised not to have a guaranteed rematch clause. We felt this was more in the spirit of the WBA rules than a direct rematch which was clearly outlawed." He agreed that it was "subterfuge."[44]When Ali and Liston signed to fight a rematch, the WBA voted unanimously to strip Ali of the title and drop Liston from its rankings.”


                  SRL Duran

                  ”The rematch, billed as "Stone vs. Sugar.. Once Again", took place November 25, 1980 at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans in front of 25,038 fans. Leonard received $7 million and Durán received $8 million.

                  Dave Jacobs disagreed with the decision to have an immediate rematch with Durán and terminated his relationship with Leonard when the rematch was made. "My idea is that he should have a tuneup fight before he fights with Roberto again", Jacobs said. "I think he won the fight with Durán, but I don't think it is healthy for him to be fighting Durán right away".

                  AKA an option to fight a rematch isn’t a contractual mandatory.

                  Got anything else? Bobby boy?
                  There was a rematch clause for Ali-Liston, just cos it wasn't labelled as such doesn't mean it didn't exist.

                  What? To take up a rematch clause is always the decision of the fighter the rematch clause is for. Are you really this dumb? If Joshua loses he can choose not to rematch if he doesn't want to.

                  Boxingfanatic doesn't know ****.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                    There was a rematch clause for Ali-Liston, just cos it wasn't labelled as such doesn't mean it didn't exist.

                    What? To take up a rematch clause is always the decision of the fighter the rematch clause is for. Are you really this dumb? If Joshua loses he can choose not to rematch if he doesn't want to.

                    Boxingfanatic doesn't know ****.
                    You obviously are remiss on the history of the fight so here I’ll educate ya Bobby Boy…. The contract that was signed was a sanctioned fight under contract through the WBA. The WBA at the time DID NOT allow for “rematch clauses.” Understanding so far? Following? When a secret second contract came into play that contained language of a rematch (again WBA did not sign off on because they didn’t allow rematch clauses), as such this kicked off an investigation of a fixed fight. The investigation included the FBI and all media sources concerning this secret second contract and the fixing of the fight.

                    So no Bobby Boy you don’t know ****. Now keep quiet I’m educating you. Also, thank me for taking to you!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

                      You obviously are remiss on the history of the fight so here I’ll educate ya Bobby Boy…. The contract that was signed was a sanctioned fight under contract through the WBA. The WBA at the time DID NOT allow for “rematch clauses.” Understanding so far? Following? When a secret second contract came into play that contained language of a rematch (again WBA did not sign off on because they didn’t allow rematch clauses), as such this kicked off an investigation of a fixed fight. The investigation included the FBI and all media sources concerning this secret second contract and the fixing of the fight.

                      So no Bobby Boy you don’t know ****. Now keep quiet I’m educating you. Also, thank me for taking to you!
                      Oh so there was a contract for a rematch, like i said? FFS.

                      Doesn't matter if there was 20 contracts. There was a rematch clause Ali had to honour. Now run along you clown.
                      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 06-17-2021, 06:46 AM.

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