Pacquiao hit Algieri with a massive left in the 9th round and that hurt him badly. Spence was hurting him and knocking him down but he didn't land a massive shot like Pacquiao did.
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Guys don’t listen to Chris Algieri when it comes down to who hits harder Pacquiao or Spence.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostAlgieri barrel rolled and got knocked down 6 times against Pac.
Algieri played a cat and mouse fight with Pacquiao of fear of getting heat with Pac's punches.
While Algieri wasn't in Fear of Spence punches went toe to toe with Spence for the duration of the fight with him
That's the telling sign he fears Pacquiao's punches more than Spence. Plus the fact he also said, Pac hits way harder.
Algieri is a B-C grade guy that had fought nobodies then was given a gift with Ruslan then Manny, Algieri had no KOs and a couple of tkos in 19 fights a very light punching B-C grader.
Manny should have stopped him some of the knockdowns were Chris falling over his own feet, none were hard KDs.
I have no idea why Manny took this BS fight, but then again he took on 13 fight novice in Horn only to be roughed up and robbed.
I have no idea who punches harder, as Ive said that's not a clear thing to define unless youre KOing everybody and folding them when you land, other than that who really knows because its different on different nights, Manny hasn't Koed anyone since Hatton, stopping Mattyesee was nothing because he was a shot to sht 140 pounder.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
Algieri is a B-C grade guy that had fought nobodies then was given a gift with Ruslan then Manny, Algieri had no KOs and a couple of tkos in 19 fights a very light punching B-C grader.
Manny should have stopped him some of the knockdowns were Chris falling over his own feet, none were hard KDs.
I have no idea why Manny took this BS fight, but then again he took on 13 fight novice in Horn only to be roughed up and robbed.
I have no idea who punches harder, as Ive said that's not a clear thing to define unless youre KOing everybody and folding them when you land, other than that who really knows because its different on different nights, Manny hasn't Koed anyone since Hatton, stopping Mattyesee was nothing because he was a shot to sht 140 pounder.
Whether you think Algieri is B, C or D fighter in your eyes. He felt both punches.. He respected Pac's power more as he ran for majority of the rounds. He didn't respect Spence and went toe to toe and got ktfo with accumulation of punches. So how did he get Knocked out. Not by one punch, but accumulation.
Pac won't be hit with accumulation of punches by Spence. Pac is too smart to be stuck in a pocket for too long. Only B,C,D fighters do that.
Algeiri felt both Pac's and Spence punches. Not just the punches that knocked him out.. But those punches both men threw. He said, Pac hits harder.
He both tasted it. Not you, not me and not any so called expert. He tasted it. So it's already a fact. Pac hits harder.
Case closed.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
You can't stop a fighter that runs or covers up. There's not openings. Pac would have destroyed Bronner, Clottey and ALgeiri if they boxed more than cover up or in Algieri's case ran.
Whether you think Algieri is B, C or D fighter in your eyes. He felt both punches.. He respected Pac's power more as he ran for majority of the rounds. He didn't respect Spence and went toe to toe and got ktfo with accumulation of punches. So how did he get Knocked out. Not by one punch, but accumulation.
Pac won't be hit with accumulation of punches by Spence. Pac is too smart to be stuck in a pocket for too long. Only B,C,D fighters do that.
Algeiri felt both Pac's and Spence punches. Not just the punches that knocked him out.. But those punches both men threw. He said, Pac hits harder.
He both tasted it. Not you, not me and not any so called expert. He tasted it. So it's already a fact. Pac hits harder.
Case closed.
Ah I get it the old stand still so I can hit you then I can show power, look at real punchers you cant keep away unless you are a brilliant mover, Manny doesn't punch anywhere near what you think that's why he doesn't stop guys you live in the world off shot Hatton and CWs outside of that he don't stop anyone, Mosley said he hits about as hard as Mayweather which I find hard to believe but the thing is he said and so did Oscar, Horn said he don't punch hard .
You cant really debate these things unless they are really big punchers like GGG etc, both Spence and Manny don't stop enough guys to be considered big punches in my book , but they not soft, and are capable of stopping anyone if the right shots land at the right time.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
Algieri is a B-C grade guy that had fought nobodies then was given a gift with Ruslan then Manny, Algieri had no KOs and a couple of tkos in 19 fights a very light punching B-C grader.
Manny should have stopped him some of the knockdowns were Chris falling over his own feet, none were hard KDs.
I have no idea why Manny took this BS fight, but then again he took on 13 fight novice in Horn only to be roughed up and robbed.
I have no idea who punches harder, as Ive said that's not a clear thing to define unless youre KOing everybody and folding them when you land, other than that who really knows because its different on different nights, Manny hasn't Koed anyone since Hatton, stopping Mattyesee was nothing because he was a shot to sht 140 pounder.
just like how spence should have stop 135 mikey garcia right??
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Originally posted by GreyFox View PostYeah, what Alfieri says doesn't make any sense.
If that's the case why didn't he go the distance with Spence?
These fighters be hating.
Why was Algieri doing the moonwalk the entire fight with pac?
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
Algieri is B-C look at his resume the best guy he has a win over was Ruslan and that was a robbery
Ah I get it the old stand still so I can hit you then I can show power, look at real punchers you cant keep away unless you are a brilliant mover, Manny doesn't punch anywhere near what you think that's why he doesn't stop guys you live in the world off shot Hatton and CWs outside of that he don't stop anyone, Mosley said he hits about as hard as Mayweather which I find hard to believe but the thing is he said and so did Oscar, Horn said he don't punch hard .
You cant really debate these things unless they are really big punchers like GGG etc, both Spence and Manny don't stop enough guys to be considered big punches in my book , but they not soft, and are capable of stopping anyone if the right shots land at the right time.
Everyone knows in boxing if you get hit by a clean shot it hurts like hell. Emphasis in clean. Now what separates a more powerful shot from the not so or the ordinary. It stings, and it leaves a mark, either the opponent gets dropped or dazed and confused.
My point is, it's a memory that sticks to you when you get hit. Fighters who got hit knows that. I know who hit me hardest as well. My point is, Algieri knows which fighter stung the most when he got hit. And it wasn't Spence, It was Pacquiao.
If you know the simple equation of Force is Mass x acceleration = FORCE or what we call the velocity of a punch.
Pac generates his punch from his lower body multiplying his punch power which is his (mass) added the speed that multiplies the mass (acceleration) = you get a punch that not only hurt, but stings. I remember Mosely mentioned how crazy Pac's punch was. It was powerful and leaves you with an aftershock buzz that lingers. Like an echo.. That's from the speed.
Buboy even needs to ice his hands after a mits exercise because of how strong it stings on his pads. It just pierces through it.
Not saying Spence has no power he has, but Pac has more pop. You can tell by how he hurts his opponent. Pac can hurt his opponent with one punch. Spence needs accumulation. So in this department Pac has more bite in his punches.
Last edited by Spoon23; 06-12-2021, 02:18 AM.
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Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Postwasnt gonna bother posting but i know how hect is...
algieri seemed like he took spence's punches worst than manny because algieri was actually fighting spence where as against manny, algieri was on the back foot for the entire fight!!!!
just like how mikey garcia came out without a scratch against spence..... what happen to the power there????
What happened was Errol Spence purposely boxed behind his jab to prove a point and he reiterated that in the post-fight interview. Mikey Garcia thought that Spence would simply try to steamroll him so Errol flipped the script by shutting him out instead. In other words, he chose to beat him at his own game.
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Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
just how like floyd should have stop logan right? a guy who has zero pro boxing experience.......
just like how spence should have stop 135 mikey garcia right??
And what has that got to do with Algieri being B-C lever fighter, his resume tells you lol, why don't you address exactly what I say not your add ons, Im saying I don't know who hits harder Errol or Manny, Im saying Manny don't hit anywhere near as his fans think, the proof is all there in their fights, I dont know where you went with it jumping to Floyd then Spence.
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