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  • RingDynasty
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    #51
    castillo kicked gayweatthers ass,anyone denies that cant be taken seriously,it was a robbery to try and keep building up floyds record ,arun pulling strings. every ringside announcer,and ledernab had castillo winning,handily and the punch stats prove it.
    Dude!! Why are you so angry?!?! LOL

    I would agree if you said that Castillo could have got that decision just as easily as Floyd could have... It was a very CLOSE fight... But no one... I repeat, no one!! kicked anybody's ass that fight.... And Castillo very deservingly got his rematch. This was a tough fight and Floyd fought with the torn rotator cuff and got the nod. I still question this fight a little to this day, but he did fight injured and he did give the rematch... He didn't get any credit for giving the rematch either... I guess he felt he had something to prove.

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    • DuttyAlacrity
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      #52
      Originally posted by boxingfan76
      say gayweather comes out aggressive, is he more aggressive than pac? no.does he hit harder ? no. if pac couldnt do it to jmm why would floyd?floyd doesnt have more power or speed,or output than pac, that is visibly clear with the hatton delahoya fights. especially coming off a long layoff no way,but stranger things have happened.floyd only throws 1 or 2 punches at a time, both jmm and pac have a much higher ko percentage than does mr marathon , runaway man.
      PBF was pot shotting against Baldy (he hurt his hand and he was at a size disadvantage), Oscar (that would make sense seeing that he was giving up so much in that fight), and in the first couple of rounds with Hatton, but by the 5th or 6th Floyd was putting together combinations. If you've seen more than 3 of PBF's fights you would know that he doesn't always pot shot. He started doing that in his later fights because he's been at a size disadvantage. It's not far fetched to think at this point in time Floyd is going to be aggressive in this fight. He's faster than JMM and JMM doesn't pose any size advantages.
      Originally posted by goldenglove2
      Floyd always promises fire works and since moving to 147..he hasnt produced. In fact he said he was going to go toe to toe with Baldo and Dela...he talks stoppages to hype his fights, nothing more IMO
      In those fights he did, but there are a lot other fights in which he lived up to what he said.
      Last edited by DuttyAlacrity; 09-02-2009, 01:56 PM.

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        #53
        I agree with your point in that intelligence is the crucial factor in this fight, and to some I agree that he may be smarter than most boxers out there. There is no denying that he is a GREAT boxer, however, I also believe that Marquez is also a very smart boxer, as I said before, he is smarter than most. I personally think it will be a very interesting fight that will be more competitve than what people are making it out to be. People just saying "Floyd IS THE BEST AND WILL DESTROY MARQUEZ" or "Marquez is the best and will destroy Mayweather" isn't really accurate.

        Come to think of it... while writing this... I just realized...that FLoyd's sholder roll might be a problem this time around...his ribs aren't really in the best of shape..what if Marquez really targets that area??? That might be crucial too...what do you guys think?
        Well interesting that you said that Marquez is very smart too... Cuz I have him as the second smartest fight in my book.... The way he changed the tempo of the Diaz fight was genius.. He was getting beat up and then he kept his cool and countered Diaz until opening the cut and dropping him. He also got decked thrice against Pac and fought to a draw... Now that was HARD...

        As far as the ribs and shoulder roll thingy.... I think he would have to get up close which would not be easy as he will have to eat straight right hands to get there... Then when he gets there who is to say that Floyd won't throw in some body shots of his own... People are so fixated on Floyd "getting hit" that they forget about his landed to thrown ratio and that Marquez is not a hard guy to hit. Aggressive is not an attribute I would give to Marquez anyway.. he is way to passive... Guys fighters are what they are.. you can't change them... maybe adjust but not change. I like Marquez but Marquez in my opinion has no clue what to do Sept. 19. On 24/7 when Nacho was making **** up to do against Floyd I felt sorry for him...

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        • SOCAL BOXING
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          #54
          The comparison between Chavez and Marquez is not due to their styles , but their accomplishments. If Marquez gets by Mayweather, he will single handedly carry the Mexican community on his shoulder as did Chavez in his era..

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          • TOBYLEE1
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            #55
            Originally posted by RingDynasty
            Dude!! Why are you so angry?!?! LOL

            I would agree if you said that Castillo could have got that decision just as easily as Floyd could have... It was a very CLOSE fight... But no one... I repeat, no one!! kicked anybody's ass that fight.... And Castillo very deservingly got his rematch. This was a tough fight and Floyd fought with the torn rotator cuff and got the nod. I still question this fight a little to this day, but he did fight injured and he did give the rematch... He didn't get any credit for giving the rematch either... I guess he felt he had something to prove.
            He gave him the rematch cause a lot of people felt that Castillo won. I do give him props for fighting him again and beating him. Also like Withaker, Floyd's body punching is underated.

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            • RingDynasty
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              #56
              there is no way floysdd hits harder than pac, at all. pac also is busier , i dont see floyd being able to ko jmm,not after seeing how pac wasnt able to.jmm may lose especially if its a dec, but going down i dont think so, i hope not.
              I think Floyd hits harder than Pac and is way faster even considering Pac has less ground to cover while throwing cuz he has much shorter arms... I think Berto is faster than both.

              About knocking out JMM... I think Floyd can and will. I don't think Pac or Floyd has great power tho... whats more important is punch placement... and no on does that better than Floyd

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                #57
                castillo kicked gayweatthers ass,anyone denies that cant be taken seriously,it was a robbery to try and keep building up floyds record ,arun pulling strings. every ringside announcer,and ledernab had castillo winning,handily and the punch stats prove it.
                Well the reason people don't take you SERIOUSLY is because you come out and the first things you say are fraud gayweather and call people nut huggers or whatever... You are dissing people before you even offer your argument.. You do have some valid points my man... but they are overshadowed by what can come off as str8 up hate.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RingDynasty
                  I think Floyd hits harder than Pac and is way faster even considering Pac has less ground to cover while throwing cuz he has much shorter arms... I think Berto is faster than both.

                  About knocking out JMM... I think Floyd can and will. I don't think Pac or Floyd has great power tho... whats more important is punch placement... and no on does that better than Floyd
                  what also goes unmentioned is the well-documented problems floyd has had with hurting his hands....

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RingDynasty
                    Well the reason people don't take you SERIOUSLY is because you come out and the first things you say are fraud gayweather and call people nut huggers or whatever... You are dissing people before you even offer your argument.. You do have some valid points my man... but they are overshadowed by what can come off as str8 up hate.
                    Happens alot here, cannot not have a debate without somebody resourcing to name calling or dissing the writer. I just ignore it and move on, not everybody is gonna respect your opinion

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                    • boxingfan76
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RingDynasty
                      I think Floyd hits harder than Pac and is way faster even considering Pac has less ground to cover while throwing cuz he has much shorter arms... I think Berto is faster than both.

                      About knocking out JMM... I think Floyd can and will. I don't think Pac or Floyd has great power tho... whats more important is punch placement... and no on does that better than Floyd
                      how can u even say that floyd hits harder than pac look at delahoyas face and hattons after they faced pac then look at them after they faced floyd, floyd couldnt even scratch delahoya,mayweather doesnt hit harder and isnt faster than pac, the only thing floyd does faster is run away with his legs, thats about it.floys ko percentage says it all, both jmm and pac have a much better ko percentage than floys, they are stronger punchers at their ideal weight per pnd than floyds is thats for sure.

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