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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

    Who were those defenses against? Against guys brought in to lose lol nearly every time. Remember he got KOd by Harold Sconiers and floored by Dustin Nichols
    Who’s were Louis’ against? Who’s were Wlad’s against? You could nitpick anybody’s title fight resume. Whichever way you wanna spin it, 10 defences is historically impressive.

    He consistently beat ranked opposition. Stiverne was a good win, both Ortiz wins were good wins. Even the Brezeale’s and Arreola’s of this world aren’t bums.

    I think Wilder’s a f***ing idiot with all his delusional excuses following the Fury loss but he’s a good fighter and was a good champion. He’s still a top 3, even top 2 HW, the only guy he lost to was the #1 in the division and there’s no shame in that.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

      Who were those defenses against? Against guys brought in to lose lol nearly every time. Remember he got KOd by Harold Sconiers and floored by Dustin Nichols
      Those title defences were against terrible opponents, whilst he avoided the biggest threats in the same division as that time. He was a champ from 2015 until 2020 and the only guys he fought that you can give credit to were Fury and Ortiz (Maybe?)

      If that same time he didn’t have names of a lot of HW that actually would have made his resume look better. Not even saying he wouldn’t have beaten them or anything like that, but he just made terrible defences.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post

        Those title defences were against terrible opponents, whilst he avoided the biggest threats in the same division as that time. He was a champ from 2015 until 2020 and the only guys he fought that you can give credit to were Fury and Ortiz (Maybe?)

        If that same time he didn’t have names of a lot of HW that actually would have made his resume look better. Not even saying he wouldn’t have beaten them or anything like that, but he just made terrible defences.
        While Wilder was twerking with Duhapas Szpillka and Molina, Povetkin was running through Perez Takam and Charr, each of whom would have been Beyonces best win by a country mile at the time. and look at AJs record in the same time frame. Chalk and cheese

        It's starting to dawn on me that Wilder is Primo Carnera tier level of hype job/managed career. He would be washing cars without that right hand

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        • #34
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

          Who’s were Louis’ against? Who’s were Wlad’s against? You could nitpick anybody’s title fight resume. Whichever way you wanna spin it, 10 defences is historically impressive.

          He consistently beat ranked opposition. Stiverne was a good win, both Ortiz wins were good wins. Even the Brezeale’s and Arreola’s of this world aren’t bums.

          I think Wilder’s a f***ing idiot with all his delusional excuses following the Fury loss but he’s a good fighter and was a good champion. He’s still a top 3, even top 2 HW, the only guy he lost to was the #1 in the division and there’s no shame in that.
          Wilders management picked the worst fighters they could. Could have fought at LEAST one of Povetkin, Perez, Takam, Charr, Ustinov, Joseph Parker, Literally ANY live body but they chose air conditioning repairmen and correctional officers. It's the worst resume of a heavyweight champion in history you realise that right?

          Utterly delusional to say Wilder is still a top 2 heavyweight. It's blindingly obvious who the top 2 heavys are now. And to say he is 3rd is a stretch tbh. You think Wilder would beat Dillian Whyte seriously? Or Joseph Parker?

          Beyonce is the biggest bum in the history of boxing

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

            Wilders management picked the worst fighters they could. Could have fought at LEAST one of Povetkin, Perez, Takam, Charr, Ustinov, Joseph Parker, Literally ANY live body but they chose air conditioning repairmen and correctional officers. It's the worst resume of a heavyweight champion in history you realise that right?

            Utterly delusional to say Wilder is still a top 2 heavyweight. It's blindingly obvious who the top 2 heavys are now. And to say he is 3rd is a stretch tbh. You think Wilder would beat Dillian Whyte seriously? Or Joseph Parker?
            Just look at the names your listing. Takam, Ustinov, Charr… Do you even follow boxing?

            Wilder is easily still top 3 and is debatably still top 2. AJ lost to Andy Ruiz Jr that’s a far worse loss than losing to Fury for example.

            Wilder obliterates Dillian Whyte or Joseph Parker. So you rate those guys but don’t rate Wilder. Talk about delusional.

            I don’t like Wilder, but if you look at things objectively, the guys proven himself as a very good Heavyweight. His record proves that. Fury, AJ and Wilder are clearly the top 3 in the world at the moment only the fanboys or haters think otherwise. You’re evidently one or the other.

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            • #36
              yes hes either that or one of the most feared punchers ever in the history of the sport, its either one or the other but can it possibly be both? no

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post

                Those title defences were against terrible opponents, whilst he avoided the biggest threats in the same division as that time. He was a champ from 2015 until 2020 and the only guys he fought that you can give credit to were Fury and Ortiz (Maybe?)

                If that same time he didn’t have names of a lot of HW that actually would have made his resume look better. Not even saying he wouldn’t have beaten them or anything like that, but he just made terrible defences.
                What threats?

                The division is f***ing trash. Guys like Povetkin, Whyte, Pulev aren’t any better than Stiverne, Ortiz etc IMO.

                The way I look at the HW division. Fury has two great wins vs Klitschko (champion 18 defences) and Wilder (champion 10 defences.) Whilst AJ and Wilder have a couple of good wins each but they mainly came against older guys or guys we never gave a chance anyway.

                Wilder deserves all the sh** in the world for his BS excuses after Fury beat him but his record really isn’t that bad.

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                • #38
                  OP is just venting for some unknown reason.

                  Wilder and Fury 3 is happening so I can't understand what inspired this pov.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

                    Fury whipped Klitschko.
                    Ok and so did A.J. my point being its discrediting Fury to call Wilder a bum especially with your only reasoning for Fury being so great is beating Klitscko because that's 1 guy out of 30 he has beat at that level if Wilder is so terrible. I just cant understand how a person can discredit Wilder without tarnishing Fury at the same time.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

                      Multiple people that were there gave their eye witness testimony of what happened.

                      Verdict: Bumsquad guilty of bumming
                      Ahhhh right, the eye witness accounts of a bunch of strangers on the internet.


                      If only they could do to all of that child ****ography what they were able to do with all the footage of Wilder vs Sconiers

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