Do you still think "size means nothing" in a fight?

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  • elfag
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    #21
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    I was saying throughout the entire build up of the fight that Mayweather will struggle to hurt this guy, let alone KO him. But the elitist boxing fans were arguing how Floyd's skills will be too much for Paul. It was nothing lol, Paul pretty much just wrestled his way through 8 rounds like nothing. Floyd could not really do anything because he was too big. The hardest punch of the fight was landed by Paul actually.

    That is why they made weight classes. Because some pro boxer who weighs 190lbs but sucks vs anyone his size, is absolutely still capable of decapitating some 154lb Jr middleweight. Logan doesn't have much skills, just skilled enough with his very little training.

    This is also why journalists/boxing media unfairly leave Heavyweights out of the P4P list. Tyson Fury is stylistically one of the toughest boxers P4P. It is very difficult to look good vs Fury. But it's okay to have Usyk there at #4 P4P, because he came up from CW. But not Fury, who would probably clearly beat Usyk if they fight. Because he is stylistically better and more versatile.

    But yeah, all that fight showed was why there's weight classes. Yes, there's "levels" to boxing. But size matters. And size can trump "skills" and "levels".

    this is factually incorrect

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    • mxtali
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      #22
      Originally posted by deathofaclown
      Canelo is close to Logan in weight and wasn’t anywhere near as competitive lol
      not even closed Lmao. Logan at the weigh in was like 30 lbs heavier than the in ring Canelo that floyd fought. Logan probably close to 200 fight night

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      • MONGOOSE66
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        #23
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
        Paul easily went the distance because he was 40lbs bigger than Floyd.

        Sorry manlets, size matters.
        I think u meant to say does being a “PROFESSIONAL” matter?

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        • Spoon23
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          #24
          Shouldn't matter with the self proclaimed TBE.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
            Paul easily went the distance because he was 40lbs bigger than Floyd.

            Sorry manlets, size matters.
            Before this fight I specifically told you Earl Hickey,that the reason that a cw youtube bum had zero chance against any pro fighter above ww,was because they don't have stamina to actually compete with a pro boxer.(didn't watch the"fight" but sounds like I was proven right)

            As I stated, same thing goes for mma "fighters" who try boxing,they can barely punch hard & barely throw often because boxing gloves are heavy & padded,& pros spent their lifetime building muscles that allow them an insurmountable advantage over any non boxer with gloves on.

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            • elfag
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              #26
              Originally posted by kushking

              Before this fight I specifically told you Earl Hickey,that the reason that a cw youtube bum had zero chance against any pro fighter above ww,was because they don't have stamina to actually compete with a pro boxer.(didn't watch the"fight" but sounds like I was proven right)

              As I stated, same thing goes for mma "fighters" who try boxing,they can barely punch hard & barely throw often because boxing gloves are heavy & padded,& pros spent their lifetime building muscles that allow them an insurmountable advantage over any non boxer with gloves on.


              paul was exhausted in the 3rd and all he did was chase floyd around for 6 minutes, floyd didnt even throw in the first two rounds.

              it was a sloppy mess though because he just held floyd endlessly the last 6 rounds and with the height and reach difference it was hard for floyd to get in there on him and land much before he could be tied up again and Paul took his shots well and couldnt be stopped with one punch.

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              • TMLT87
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                #27
                Skills can compensate for size disadvantage up to a certain point. Its also dependent on whether the bigger guy is athletic or not. In this case its 44 year old Floyd vs an athletic 26 year old bigger man.

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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  I agree that's why floyd ko the 125lbs kick boxer in round 1.
                  Yup that kickboxer was UNDOUBTEDLY a better fighter than logan paul, as was Coner mcgregor tbh but not of them got stopped while rank amateur logan paul was able to big man his way through the fight and see the final bell in relatively good shape.

                  Obviously if the size difference isn't that big and the skill level is massive and the big guy is unconditioned etc then yeah you can see giant slayings but logan paul showed you tonight that size does mean quite a bit.
                  Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 06-07-2021, 01:08 AM.

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                  • JasonBoxing
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-

                    Yeah and Ali would KO any NFL player.

                    Not.

                    That's why an NFL player went the distance vs Ali, who is not even close to a weak puncher.

                    160lb Tommy Hearns would probably not have been able to KO a HW NFL player. This is just more exaggerating from boxing fans who think boxers are superhuman/super heroes with special powers and no regular athlete/civilian stands a chance against them. Regardless of weight.

                    Yeah 160lb Tommy Hearns can KO a 230lb NFL player. And would have had an iron chin vs the NFL player too. The only people who can KO Hearns were similarly super-powered superheroes. And only superheroes with superhuman chins were able to go the distance vs the 160lb Hearns.
                    So you are saying Prime Tyson could not KO Lebron James? That's weird dude. What about 'Midget' Wladimir at 240 pounds vs BIG SHOW at 350 pounds during his heaviest? You don't think Wlad could KO Big Show?

                    What about Prime Lennox Lewis vs Shaq?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ralex
                      That’s why Canelo is so impressive he beats guys way bigger than him like it’s nothing
                      Canelo fights guys his size or smaller. Canelo rarely if ever fights guys smaller than him weight wise come fight night. And he used performance enhancing drugs when he moved up also.

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