Comments Thread For: Tommy Fury Tested, Wins Competitive Decision Over Jordan Grant

[Nash out]

I factor history. And older fighters don't get younger whether they are active or inactive. There is a reason why not once has a 38 year old lighter fighter even been favored to win a title. Donaire was an underdog for a very clear reason. Now he has made history. But it wont happen again any time soon.

It may have been history, but to me, he just won a fight I fully expected him to win, against a man that nobody really knows who he is, or ever will know. It will just be a forgettable win in time, except for the fact he was 38. Beating a weak champion just doesn't hold any weight. There's a lot of belts now, and because of that, sometimes average fighters can get hold of them, so beating someone like that, is not the same as beating a Canelo, a Crawford, a Wlad, when Fury beat him, etc.

There are three tiers of champions. 1. Great champs/Excellent fighters. 2. Good champions, and 3, Weak belt holders, and that's the level Donaire's opponent was to me.

[Robbie Barrett]

What was the crowd shouting at him?

They know he's going nowhere. They just want to make him some money using his brothers name. He tried to be become a Z lister on reality shows and when that failed came running back to boxing.

[richardt]

It may have been history, but to me, he just won a fight I fully expected him to win, against a man that nobody really knows who he is, or ever will know. It will just be a forgettable win in time, except for the fact he was 38. Beating a weak champion just doesn't hold any weight. There's a lot of belts now, and because of that, sometimes average fighters can get hold of them, so beating someone like that, is not the same as beating a Canelo, a Crawford, a Wlad, when Fury beat him, etc.

There are three tiers of champions. 1. Great champs/Excellent fighters. 2. Good champions, and 3, Weak belt holders, and that's the level Donaire's opponent was to me.

The fact is, if it was that easy, more fighters would have done it. It's not about the quality of Quabali, it was about the fact that fighters who are 38 can easily already be aged badly, or age overnight. They follow a fighter around the ring and can no longer pull the trigger and their reflexes are shot.

What you have to understand is that Donaire had been through wars and younger fresher fighters prevail. And yes beating Quabali DOES hold weight because Donaire is an exception, not the rule.

If they had taken all the bantamweights over 36 and had them fight Quabali, they would have been badly beaten. This is not about Quabali, this is about Donaire being an exception to the rule which he emphatically illustrated last weekend.

As long as you are breathing oxygen in this world, you most likely will never see another fighter over 36 below Lightweight win a title against anyone. There are reasons this has not happened before and it is because Donaire was well preserved. Donaire was an underdog for a very clear reason. If he was a typical 38 year old, where he was unable to do anything of what he did 10 years ago, no one is ****** enough to think he would have beaten Quabali. It would have been Donaire's swan song retirement and a name on Quabali's resume.

[just the facts]

tommy progressing nicely as a pro

Is he a problem for the lt hwt division or is he being overlooked because he's British?

[kingstip9]

Tommy Fury is garbage. I only had him winning 39-38. The score 40-36 flattered him. No skill, speed, or power, I'd actually take Jake Paul to beat him.

“3. Roy Jones JR - Avoided the Russian guy, got outboxed by Griffin in his prime, beat a pre-prime Bernard Hopkins, not the prime Hopkins Calzaghe beat, and beat an inconsistent James Toney. Lost loads.”

is this serious or just trolling lol?

prime Hopkins that calzaghe beat? Lol what

[Nash out]

“3. Roy Jones JR - Avoided the Russian guy, got outboxed by Griffin in his prime, beat a pre-prime Bernard Hopkins, not the prime Hopkins Calzaghe beat, and beat an inconsistent James Toney. Lost loads.”

is this serious or just trolling lol?

prime Hopkins that calzaghe beat? Lol what

It's just an exaggeration.

[Queen_Leia]

After what i saw today from Tommy Fury, I think him and Jake Paul is 50/50.

[richardt]

“3. Roy Jones JR - Avoided the Russian guy, got outboxed by Griffin in his prime, beat a pre-prime Bernard Hopkins, not the prime Hopkins Calzaghe beat, and beat an inconsistent James Toney. Lost loads.”

is this serious or just trolling lol?

prime Hopkins that calzaghe beat? Lol what

Probably trolling....Roy Jones never avoided a Russian fighter, not even the fighter he is thinking of, who was Polish-German, not Russian. I wrote an article here about how both Roy and Dariusz (from Germany, not Russia) couldn't come to terms for a fight since I followed every single development at the time. This was back when there were talks of the fight like when Jones' team went to Germany for discussions about a purse split with Klaus-Peter at Universum and how Dariusz turned down fighting on the undercard of the the #1 PFP fighter in the world to help build the potential matchup. And how Dariusz was going to build his brand by fighting American David Telesco toward a Jones showdown but pulled out of that fight. I followed all of the connected pieces to the talks of that superfight that never happened. So thats how you can tell when someone clearly knows nothing about Dariusz or the fight, or they would know Dariusz was not Russian.

[kingstip9]

It's just an exaggeration.

My bad. Fair enough

[Toffee]

The only reasons he is mentioned at all are his Fury name and his reality TV stint. And I'm not into either.

I might wait for him to have some kind of boxing relevance before I comment on his ability.