Comments Thread For: Hearn Suspects Team Fury Never Wanted Joshua Fight: 'I Felt a Little Betrayed'

[Shadoww702]

Shadow there are layers to these "thoughts." I like to use this example because I know it. My lawyer, I recently was plowed into by a car, is an old friend with a lot of connections. He knew the head DA when OJ was acquitted. This DA had health problems and could not take the case... while the case was proceeding the DA told my lawyer that the case was blown... He knew. As a matter of fact? Many legal experts knew that the jury was not given the proof they needed and that the glove had cast reasonable doubt all through the case...

My point being... People who are professional lawyers, legal analysts would have entry to the arbitrator (professional courtesy), or someone at the office who could give them an assesment. IF Eddie was so daft that he neglected to see his charge's interests diverted from Fury... where as Joshua was looking at a low reward, high risk fight with Usyk... and Fury was looking at potentially two fights, depending on arbitration, and depending on circumstance (Wilder could still get injured,etc)... that is virtually not possible. It would essentially mean that a member of the low IQ society for equality for all potentially could have done a greater service to Joshua by simply hiring a professional to look into the arbitration hearing... Than hearn who trusted an opposing player.

People like Robbie and Redeemer sprout out these ideas and poison the common sense and process of logic that we all need to depend on and get people to overlook these simple understandings. its certainly possible (theoretically) that Eddie made this bo bo. But look what it is asking one to believe. That a professional negotiator did not do due dilligence in a relatively simple matter.

And proof of this probability? hearn also wants people to believe that there was a magical "get out of contract" card for Arum to pull. Absolute nonsense. What was a fact was: If Fury is my concern, his best options are to have the Wilder fight lined up because he has no choice, and to have any and all options if that fight falls through... all the better if the fight can be made down the line in December. But Eddie could not reason that out? Really?

Great points! And 100% correct Eddie could of looked into a lil deeper how negotiations were going with team Wilder. In fairness i was pretty shocked they ruled in Wilders favor?

But this Carona virus stuff threw all legal sht out the window. Ppl getting record number of money and wanting to do NOTHING for it.

people are refusing to pay rent and utilities and are getting away with it. Insane!!!

[Curt Henning]

hearn please stfu...youve proven if its anyone looking to avoid the big fight its you.....you ducked wilder and every fighter,manager, trainer in england said so...your own father said he advised against the fight.....

meanwhile fury rematched a guy that nearly took his head off...while you had to use a big ring to punch and run from a 6ft tub of sheet with short arms and slow feet....aint nobody scared of AJ....if anyone looks bad its you....

[MastaBlasta]

I’d expect the salesman to tell me which cars are not for sale and then work out a deal on one which is. Quite clearly they had no intention of fighting Joshua, they didn’t attempt to end the contract and finalised the 3rd Wilder fight in secret while telling Hearn none of this, pushing him to get the fight signed and sealed and told him nothing of the arbitration because of a gagging order but confirmed repeatedly that Wilder was not going to be an issue.

So to answer your question I wouldn’t expect a car salesman to thrash out a deal with me that he was never going to sell me anyway it benefits neither of us and wastes our time, unless the sales man sat back and let me try to finalise the whole deal and finance package on my own with his computer and head office while he sat with his feet up watching funny cat vids on YouTube and then turn his PC off at the last minute and says he don’t want to sell me a car and then i would think he’s just a time wasting cvnt who wanted to mess me about.

The idea that hearn or Matchroom doesn't know the possible consequences of a contract arbitration case is laughable. The idea that Arum or Top Rank needed to tell hearn of the possible outcomes that could derail the fight are even more laughable. If any of that were true, that would be saying that hearn and Matchroom are nothing but complete ignorant amateurs in the legal game and the fight game. Is that really what you are wanting to say? Arum/Fury made monkeys out of you because they told you don't worry about the arbitraton?

That was enough for you guys to dismiss any legitamite concern? Wow! Completely idiotic ...

[Shadoww702]

Wilder and Fury had a contract to fight last year. It should not of taken this long to make a ruling on it.

[Sosay]

You had months to make the fight before the ruling. Wilder won't step aside, how hard is that to understand. Hearn is just deflecting again for not making the fight.

If Wilder won't step aside, why not make the fight to get it out of the way. Maybe Hearn should do the same with Usyk and quit dragging his feet. It seems to me that Fury is more confident since AJ is already talking about dropping the belt. I don't see the problem, Fury vs Wilder & AJ vs Usyk this summer, winners fight after for undisputed. We all win. It was easy to avoid if you guys would've made the fight but you didnt

[Oldskoolg]

You matchroom trolls, you sweet carolines, you little nerds who cape for Eddie Hearn because you never watched boxing before he introduced you to the sport are looking pretty damn pathetic and the real boxing fans are exposing you trolls in this thread

[billeau2]

I’d expect the salesman to tell me which cars are not for sale and then work out a deal on one which is. Quite clearly they had no intention of fighting Joshua, they didn’t attempt to end the contract and finalised the 3rd Wilder fight in secret while telling Hearn none of this, pushing him to get the fight signed and sealed and told him nothing of the arbitration because of a gagging order but confirmed repeatedly that Wilder was not going to be an issue.

So to answer your question I wouldn’t expect a car salesman to thrash out a deal with me that he was never going to sell me anyway it benefits neither of us and wastes our time, unless the sales man sat back and let me try to finalise the whole deal and finance package on my own with his computer and head office while he sat with his feet up watching funny cat vids on YouTube and then turn his PC off at the last minute and says he don’t want to sell me a car and then i would think he’s just a time wasting cvnt who wanted to mess me about.

Don't you think if the Wilder fight fell through Fury would take the Joshua fight? Salesmen will "bait and switch" but more often than not... If I have something that I can't seem to sell, I might try to incline one to look at that car, without stating the reason...Even giving you a nice deal. In this case even for arguments sake, if the Wilder fight was the desired fight... Arum knows Fury would take the Joshua fight if the Wilder fight fell through.

The money involved, etc dictate that whether Fury wanted to fight Joshua, this was a better fight to have... and even if we say Fury would not want to fight Joshua... its not a bad option lined up if the first fight fell through.

Any one of us could see why it is an advantage to Fury to pursue a fight with Joshua... Eddy could see it also. If nothing else, as an option.

I agree with you that perhaps Eddy was not aware of Arum's priorities... But that would be a damn good reason to find out the possible outcome for the arbitration one would think.

[DaNeutral.]

The idea that hearn or Matchroom doesn't know the possible consequences of a contract arbitration case is laughable. The idea that Arum or Top Rank needed to tell hearn of the possible outcomes that could derail the fight are even more laughable. If any of that were true, that would be saying that hearn and Matchroom are nothing but complete ignorant amateurs in the legal game and the fight game. Is that really what you are wanting to say? Arum/Fury made monkeys out of you because they told you don't worry about the arbitraton?

That was enough for you guys to dismiss any legitamite concern? Wow! Completely idiotic ...

Hearn was not given the play by play of it, there was a supposed gagging order (which I don’t believe) so he was only fed lies. Hearn shouldn’t of trusted them, he shouldn’t of been so naive but then two of the biggest promoters in the game and a World champion shouldn’t be lying when it comes to trying to make the biggest deal in the whole of the sport.

Let’s face it, had Hearn refused to try to make this deal due to the concerns you say he should of had the narrative of ducking and of Joshua not really wanting undisputed would of been jumped on big time. Literally everything from the salty haters is negative to every thing Hearn and Joshua do even though it’s the other side that we’re down right conniving and dirty this whole time.

[billeau2]

The idea that hearn or Matchroom doesn't know the possible consequences of a contract arbitration case is laughable. The idea that Arum or Top Rank needed to tell hearn of the possible outcomes that could derail the fight are even more laughable. If any of that were true, that would be saying that hearn and Matchroom are nothing but complete ignorant amateurs in the legal game and the fight game. Is that really what you are wanting to say? Arum/Fury made monkeys out of you because they told you don't worry about the arbitraton?

That was enough for you guys to dismiss any legitamite concern? Wow! Completely idiotic ...

Thats the point I have been trying to make here. I sure wish I had someone like hearn's fans to let me cry on their shoulder if I am doing a development and I forget to check zoning and water access because some inspector in the permits office is a nice guy who tole me it was ok...

[billeau2]

fury and wilder both intend to never fight AJ. they will posture and pretend they want the AJ fight but they will never do it. they will keep fighting each other to protect the American market and block out AJ and Hearn. They will manipulate the media to cast AJ as just some euro bum. arum and haymon believe the fake fury vs wilder series can spark the hwt era in America and lead to big profits without having to take the big risk vs AJ. Hearn is being played like a fool. he will keep trying to make Aj vs fury and wilder and he will keep on failing. and the US media will blame Hearn.

Right... so if I offered you... not even a professional fighter (presumably) a measely half of 75 million to step in the ring with Joshua... you would be afraid and wouldn't? Yet a fellow professional fighter is sooo deathly afraid of another fighter he will not take the kind of saudi money on the table. Are you thinking this through? ben Asknew took half a million dollars to get starched and it was the best payday of his career! Spinks was so intimidated by Tyson he practically pissed on Mike's leg... But was able... yet Fury and Wilder are such a departure from human nature.

And such patriotism... Really? I dont even know how to address that...

Think people think!!!