Comments Thread For: Wilder: John Fury Trying To Get His Son To Duck, I'm Very Dangerous Right Now

[Monty Fisto]

Also look at photos of the knockdown. Many of them with Wilder in all sorts of different places that are not the neutral corner. He was clearly prancing around, thumping his chest, and not being in the neutral corner.

[Monty Fisto]

For example: https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/ne...?adppopup=true

[KnickTillDeaTh]

No, I've watched it many, many times. He immediately heads to his own corner, then can be seen reversing and dancing toward a neutral corner. Camera cuts away for a few seconds. When it comes back to him, he is walking away from Fury's corner toward a neutral corner. We know, therefore, he cannot have been in the neutral corner. So my point stands.

You need to watch it again. Wilder didn't go all the way to his own corner he took 2 steps toward the blue corner then immediately started heading to the neutral corner. Reiss didn't even have to say a thing or direct him. The next time we see Wilder Fury is already up and there's no way to tell where Wilder was during the count. Your point does not stand because it is very clear from the video when Reiss takes up the count from the score keeper, Wilder is already in the neutral corner. Can the ref pause the count because a fighter exited the neutral corner? Yes, however that almost never happens, A ref will only stop the count if the fighter leaves the neutral corner and heads toward the fighter thats on the canvas, or if the other fighter is doing something crazy. Even if Wilder was pacing the two far corners (red corner to neutral corner) no ref would have stopped the count because Wilder was not near Fury. You're also wrong because Wilder was the champion and as such, Wilders corner was the red corner. The blue corner was the corner he took 2 steps toward. As I said, you need to watch it again.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

For example: https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/ne...?adppopup=true

C'mon man that picture was before Reiss took up the count from the score keeper, Wilder is clearly heading to the neutral corner. Why are you obsessed with changing what actually happened?

[War Room]

The yes men in his ear have him fooled again. I wonder who he will throw under the bus after getting destroyed again. Maybe Scott will take the blame like he took that dive for Wilder.

Haha, he did legit take a dive for Wilder. I wonder what their arrangement was/is?

[Monty Fisto]

You need to watch it again. Wilder didn't go all the way to his own corner he took 2 steps toward the blue corner then immediately started heading to the neutral corner. Reiss didn't even have to say a thing or direct him. The next time we see Wilder Fury is already up and there's no way to tell where Wilder was during the count. Your point does not stand because it is very clear from the video when Reiss takes up the count from the score keeper, Wilder is already in the neutral corner. Can the ref pause the count because a fighter exited the neutral corner? Yes, however that almost never happens, A ref will only stop the count if the fighter leaves the neutral corner and heads toward the fighter thats on the canvas, or if the other fighter is doing something crazy. Even if Wilder was pacing the two far corners (red corner to neutral corner) no ref would have stopped the count because Wilder was not near Fury. You're also wrong because Wilder was the champion and as such, Wilders corner was the red corner. The blue corner was the corner he took 2 steps toward. As I said, you need to watch it again.

You need to watch it again. You clearly haven't watched it recently or you'd know that Fury's corner was the red corner. Wilder's was the blue. This is a fact. Please do not accuse me of making things up, when you post things that contradict what is documented by photo and video.

Watch it again. Watch the knockdown in the 9th first. Wilder clubs him. Fury goes down near his own corner (the red corner). The ref does the right thing and directs Wilder to the neutral corner (the white corner), which is where he goes directly. All correct procedure. Incidentally note the beginning of the 10th while you are there -- Fury coming out of the red corner and Wilder coming out of the blue corner. Note to yourself how you made up that it was the other way round to try and suit your false argument against the facts.

Then go to the knockdown in the 12th. Note when the clock is at about 2mins and 8 seconds that Wilder is walking out of the red corner, which is Fury's corner. I rest my case.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

You need to watch it again. You clearly haven't watched it recently or you'd know that Fury's corner was the red corner. Wilder's was the blue. This is a fact. Please do not accuse me of making things up, when you post things that contradict what is documented by photo and video.

Watch it again. Watch the knockdown in the 9th first. Wilder clubs him. Fury goes down near his own corner (the red corner). The ref does the right thing and directs Wilder to the neutral corner (the white corner), which is where he goes directly. All correct procedure. Incidentally note the beginning of the 10th while you are there -- Fury coming out of the red corner and Wilder coming out of the blue corner. Note to yourself how you made up that it was the other way round to try and suit your false argument against the facts.

Then go to the knockdown in the 12th. Note when the clock is at about 2mins and 8 seconds that Wilder is walking out of the red corner, which is Fury's corner. I rest my case.

Bro get off your high horse my man. Yes I was incorrect about the corner, I have no problem admitting that, traditionally the red corner is reserved for the champion. That doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about everything else lol. The ref doesn't have to direct the fighter if the fighter is already on his way to the neutral corner, Wilder took 2 steps toward the blue corner to pump his chest to the crowd then turned and walked directly to the neutral corner, Wilder didn't walk all the way to the blue corner as you said, and as the picture you posted clearly shows he did not. By the time Reiss picks up the count Wilder is in the neutral corner, the next time Wilder is seen Fury is already standing, so it doesn't matter where Wilder is at. And let me destroy your point completely. The ref has the ultimate say in the ring, every single rule that governs the refs actions is under the refs discretion. So no Reiss does not have to stop the count if Wilder exits the neutral corner if he does not feel he needs to, which in this case he didn't need to. You're wrong get over it.

[Monty Fisto]

Bro get off your high horse my man. Yes I was incorrect about the corner, I have no problem admitting that, traditionally the red corner is reserved for the champion. That doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about everything else lol. The ref doesn't have to direct the fighter if the fighter is already on his way to the neutral corner, Wilder took 2 steps toward the blue corner to pump his chest to the crowd then turned and walked directly to the neutral corner, Wilder didn't walk all the way to the blue corner as you said, and as the picture you posted clearly shows he did not. By the time Reiss picks up the count Wilder is in the neutral corner, the next time Wilder is seen Fury is already standing, so it doesn't matter where Wilder is at. And let me destroy your point completely. The ref has the ultimate say in the ring, every single rule that governs the refs actions is under the refs discretion. So no Reiss does not have to stop the count if Wilder exits the neutral corner if he does not feel he needs to, which in this case he didn't need to. You're wrong get over it.

"The ref has the ultimate say in the ring, every single rule that governs the refs actions is under the refs discretion"

We agree. And we come back full circle to your "borderline long count" nonsense which now goes flying out the window, booted by your own acknowledgement that everything is under the ref's discretion.

Reiss counted. Tyson Fury got up according to that count.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

"The ref has the ultimate say in the ring, every single rule that governs the refs actions is under the refs discretion"

We agree. And we come back full circle to your "borderline long count" nonsense which now goes flying out the window, booted by your own acknowledgement that everything is under the ref's discretion.

Reiss counted. Tyson Fury got up according to that count.

I never said anything about the count being long, I just responded to your incorrect assertion that it should have been longer. But, it's important to clarify that a fight result can be overturned if the count is deemed to be too long, where as a fight result will not be overturned because a fighter left the neutral corner during the count, so these two things are not equivocal. Either way I never mentioned anything about the count being long, you can refer to my first post if you'd like.