Some guy told me Canelo is the best, but then said that he cant rank Pacquiao highly because he is a PED cheat lol

[blowblow]

Would Canelo have failed a test if he avoided VADA like Pacquiao does?

pac never failed a vada test.. what are you pointing about? why do you hate pac so much? you lost everytime you bet against him?

[Robbie Barrett]

pac never failed a vada test.. what are you pointing about? why do you hate pac so much? you lost everytime you bet against him?

Pacquiao doesn't do VADA testing. How can you fail something you don't do?

[blowblow]

It is very, very, very, very, very likely (maybe, 90-95%) that Pacquiao has cheated in his career. His avoidance of drug testing was a joke and only his rabid fans ate it up. The dude literally said he couldn't do RANDOM DRUG TESTING (the hallmark of OLYMPIC testing) because he was:

- afraid of needles
- giving blood weakened him
- needed a cutoff date without giving blood

And the Pacman ran with those excuses FOR YEARS...and the public LET HIM GET AWAY with it because they hate black people (Floyd). Meanwhile Floyd kept doing OSDT versus all his opponents including Mosley, Ortiz, JMM (peepee man LOL), Canelo, etc.

Silver lining? Pacman got KTFO6 by a probable drug cheat AND...when Pac was finally ready to fight Floyd? Pac submitted to OSDT

LMFAO.....

Canelo tested positive for clenbuterol. It is very su****ious and it is probable he was using PEDs. He has since joined the WBC365 and done OSDT without 1 positive test...and he's been as dominant or more dominant than he's ever been.

It must also be mentioned that when Canelo tested positive it marked the ONLY TIMES he's been tested in Mexico and there is an actual beef problem in Mexico as the agricultural industry uses clenbuterol in their cattle...make of that what you may.

Similarly, I believe the rules have since changed and higher values are needed (beyond what is "normal" for ingestion of meat) to fail a drug screen for clenbuterol

again?

can you show us the link pac said he was afraid of needles? if you can't back it up then all your accusation is invalid.. be credible enough and show us the proof.. you can't just post a made up accusation

[Robbie Barrett]

How is he cherrypicking when to do it? Not two fights ago he agreed to USADA and then VADA vs Broner, before doing the NSAC’s random testing for Thurman. And where do you get the idea they aren’t testing him in the Philippines, you have confirmation of some kind? I’ve seen VADA’s Margaret Goodman confirm they tested him in the Philippines for Rios.

See all over the place. Cherry picking when he does it. Thanks for showing us. He's not doing VADA now and the US commissions can't test outside the US, so he's not being tested.

[blowblow]

So only VADA can catch people? He did random “olympic style” testing for Thurman. That was good enough for certain others.

these casuals only knows VADA.. vada which floyd gets the exemption.. vada that was on floyd's side.. VADA VADA VADA only... these idlots should learn more about testing companies.

[Smash]

pac gets a lot of stick about his refusal to do full drug stuff for floyd fight but u have to also factor in the circumstances, this vada thing for boxers was brought in by floyd for pac and pac agreed to full vada but said he didnt like giving blood last week before fight which seems to be a very good compromise for the fight back then since he would have been tested post fight and urine in that week!!!!! thats what i can remember of it anyway & that should have been green for go in that fight, my opinion anyway

[blowblow]

"Only" doesn't matter how many. It's now standard to have random testing and he has a problem with it, cherry picking when to do it. That's a huge flag. He's training in the Philippines now, who's testing him? Not US commissions because they have no authority outside the US.

how about floyd's IV? i'm waiting for your response.

[Robbie Barrett]

pac gets a lot of stick about his refusal to do full drug stuff for floyd fight but u have to also factor in the circumstances, this vada thing for boxers was brought in by floyd for pac and pac agreed to full vada but said he didnt like giving blood last week before fight which seems to be a very good compromise for the fight back then since he would have been tested post fight and urine in that week!!!!! thats what i can remember of it anyway & that should have been green for go in that fight, my opinion anyway

Mayweather offered him a 14 day cut off at mediation and Pacquiao turned it down. He still avoids testing. He's VERY suspect.

[SplitSecond]

See all over the place. Cherry picking when he does it. Thanks for showing us. He's not doing VADA now and the US commissions can't test outside the US, so he's not being tested.

Lol. All over the place? He’s taking everyone’s tests and passing. That brings more strength to the argument that he’s clean if anything. And you haven’t a clue if the commission isn’t testing him in the Philippines. They hired VADA as the collection agency for the Thurman fight, so for all you know sample collectors wearing “VADA” on their shirts are showing up right now to take those samples again. Stop the hate man.

[Beercules]

I don't understand it either.



Mexican beef doe