Joshua ducked Fury and Wilder

[QballLobo]

Yeah he ducked them by trying to give them $100 million and a shot at undisputed heavyweight champ status. Haha
That would be like Burger King giving op $20 an hour, therefore doubling what he makes at Wendy’s and him turning it down saying “they really didn’t want me.”

[daggum]

he ducked fury because fury lost the arbitration and is forced to fight wilder next? how does that work? obviously wilder ducked joshua many times. wilder made one offer to joshua which joshua parlayed into a huge dazn deal for hundreds of milions. after he secured huge amounts of money he came back and tried to give wilder huge money and wilder turned it down! wilder parlayed 100 million into about 50 (best case scenario based on reports) possibly much less. ok its not a duck its just the worst business decision ever. haymon who is supposed to be his "manager" tricked him good. mind bobbling

[daggum]

some people just arent that bright. joshua turned wilders 50 million dollar offer into hundreds of millions for himself by saying to dazn im taking this unless you get me more. wilder turned 100 million into much less money for himself by saying im taking this unless you get me less! and if joshua didnt want to fight wilder how come he offered him 100 million? how the hell is he supposed to know wilder would turn that down when hes making 2 million a fight? joshua tried to give wilder a 1500 percent raise per fight and wilder said noooo i deserve more! then he went and made less lmao!

[KingGilgamesh]

Wilder would've made 100 million for the deal with DAZN/Joshua. Instead he made 60 million in that same span. Really good business.

You expected Wilder to have a fight with Brezeale and two fights between himself and Joshua between spring 2019 and March 2020? You can't be this ******.

[RightJabLikeZab]

You expected Wilder to have a fight with Brezeale and two fights between himself and Joshua between spring 2019 and March 2020? You can't be this ******.

If he only fought Breazale and Joshua once, he still would've made 60 million dolllars at that point with another fight worth 40 milllion with Joshua promised for later in 2020. If the 3rd didn't materialize he could've easily gotten out of the contract like Canelo did. Idk what's better. Making 60 mil through 3 fights, but being brutally stopped in the third and not fighting since, or making 60 mil in 2 fights with a 3rd guaranteed for $40 million, regardless when it happens.

[Jax teller]

Ducked? Doubt it.

But never really needed or wanted to commit to fighting them. People cite the Wilder DAZN offer a million times as if there isn't a wealth of literally googleable information in which Skipper (DAZN's chief) acknowledged the deal was a poor one. It was for like 3 fights and couldn't guarantee a Joshua fight either (the Ali Act means networks cant force matchups). I legit think Wilder was enticed by it but Haymon talked him out in the end. Say what you want about Haymon, but given the fact that Wilder made 36m for getting his ass handed to him, Canelo has gone on to sue DAZN and Golden Boy for his own 300m DAZN deal failing to actually live up to the lofty amounts promised and Joshua subsequently losing shortly after said deal was offered, I'm gonna go onto acknowledge that there is a pretty good reason why fighters remain loyal to him.

I also don't think Hearn and Joshua were particularly keen on the Fury fight either. I don't think they did duck or would duck...but I do believe they're much happier taking on "soft touch" opponents like Ruiz or Whyte again. A tell tale sign of whether I am right or wrong will be whether Joshua actually takes on Usyk next. If he doesn't and his fanboys try and justify it then I'll gladly say he ducked all three. That will cement it for me. TBH for a portion of the British boxing public who have (rather unfairly) soured on him lately, it will likely do the same for them too. Joshua/Pulev didn't do that well. I think the fights between both Wilder and Fury and even Joe Joyce and Dubois has shown that there are too many live dogs in the division to continue conning the public into watching fights between AJ and 40+ year olds. Another fight with someone like Whyte will likely bomb. Its at this point that they'll happily get in the ring with the divisions more dangerous opponents.

Are you dumb?

You should google 'the wealth googleable' information.

Skipper only said they should have approached Haymon differently and formed a relationship first it wasn't a comment about the deal and that's not even a reasonable excuse from Wilders team tbh.

Wilder himself said it was a better deal than the one for the Fury.

You're a damn imbecile claiming the fights wouldn't have been necessarily been against AJ at 40 mil a piece when this wasn't a problem for Wilders team at the time.

Pretty blatant you got some goofy agenda.

[YGriffith]

They are all ducking each other.

[Repens]

They are all ducking each other.

[lfc19titles]

Wow here it comes again

wilder admits it was him who turned down Joshua’s offer which was higher than the fury offer yet it was Joshua who ducked

it was clear Haymon and co wanted to cause reputation damage to Joshua hence their fake online offer with no contract

I love seeing you all try to lie about the actual truth of the situation

wilder and fury talk and type a lot but they fear Joshua

that is the truth but they don’t want the public to know but their ducking has been caught out

[Toffee]

Not even worth debating anymore. Wilder admitted he had a great offer. Fury admitted he'd had a great offer. Not secretly, they both did this on Instagram.

Joshua isn't ducking. He's trying to get fights made.