A 50 year old veteran from the Hood. Talks about Floyd fan boys and why Pac is true throw back to the GREATS.

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  • Roadblock
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    #221
    Originally posted by aAgger

    Nothing you say makes any rational sense whatsoever. Your argument has no logic behind it at all. You keep ignoring the fact that Pac is a smaller fighter than Floyd.

    We're talking about a fighter, Pacquiao, who tore through eight weight divisions, from flyweight to middleweight. That would be the equivalent of Floyd going all the way up to light heavyweight and dominating that division. If Floyd tried to pull a stunt like that, he'd get KO'd by any decent light heavyweight (hence why he only fought a YouTuber at that weight).

    If you think size don't matter, then Floyd might as well just go fight Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury. Floyd would get killed if he tried to take them on. When people claim Floyd or Pac are the best/greatest, they're talking pound-for-pound, i.e. taking their weight into account. You can't be talking about P4P best and ignore the weight, when that's the whole point of P4P.

    Floyd would never be able to dominate larger fighters than himself, the way Pac has consistently dominated larger fighters than himself. Floyd beating smaller fighters is not as impressive as Pac beating larger fighters.

    If we are talking P4P, then Pac has a stronger case than Floyd, as explained by Max Kellerman. You can't just look at who beat who, but what matters is who beat who at what weight class. That's the whole point of P4P.
    Floyd would dominate every fighter Manny did under the very same conditions, that's Cotto 14lbs lighter, Oscar 20lbs lighter and dead man walking, that's what Manny dominated, I believe both versions of Oscar and Cotto that Floyd beat would beat Manny, that's the reason Manny refused point-blank across two weight classes to fight Cotto without a CW. Manny didn't dominate and KO anybody that was not CWed .

    Where did I say size don't matter, in boxing as in any one on one fight it matters greatly, where it doesn't matter is what you where in another time, it only matters on the night of the fight what you are, if you grow into a bigger fighter you are no longer the smaller fighter so to compare size across different times don't really mean anything.

    Floyd and Manny are entirely different beings, different speed power ratios, they met head to head and Manny couldn't do anything with him and lost too a Floyd in cruise control, doesn't mean they are both not great, just means one was better when it mattered most.

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    • Mike D
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      #222
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      he never lost this circus he boxed his ears off but he didn't stop him and that's because he is past it and the size was too much to overcome, its nothing but a 44 yr old great getting old, doesn't change one thing about what he did in his pro boxing career.



      I agree. I mean I had some fun with it here and made/participated in some jokes but in reality I know it doesn't affect his legacy. The guy is 44, been retired for a while and this was just an exhibition with no real stakes at play.




      just hope Manny doesn't get too old in this fight its bad to see a great go out in a bad way, the worst feeling I ever had was seeing Larry Holmes make Ali look like an old punching bag, I don't ever wanna see that again with any ATG..
      Yeah it's certainly a possibility. As a Manny fan I'm hoping he can reach down as deep as he ever has and find a way to be special on that night in August, and if not (pull it off I mean), at least make Spence really earn it. Yes it would be hard as a fan for myself to see him get badly beaten. But...this is boxing, and Manny knows what he signed up for. As they say Father Time is unbeaten, and fighting in the same night Father Time and Errol Spence, who is an absolute wrecking ball of a boxer, is a Himalayan mountain of a task.

      I like Errol a lot so it wouldn't be the end of the world to see Manny pass him the torch, but like I said, if Manny's to lose that night...I want Errol to have to really, really earn it to get that torch.

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        #223
        [QUOTE=MONGOOSE66;n30944587]
        Originally posted by Spoon23

        Kinda like your breath.
        What is this? Kindergarten humor time hahaha!! You got no game bruh!

        Get back and sit on the bench. You suck ass kid!



        Anyway, I wouldn't even go near you with a ten foot pole.. So you'll never know how my fresh breath smells. It's actually divine.

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          #224
          [QUOTE=Spoon23;n30944848]
          Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

          What is this? Kindergarten humor time hahaha!! You got no game bruh!

          Get back and sit on the bench. You suck ass kid!



          Anyway, I wouldn't even go near you with a ten foot pole.. So you'll never know how my fresh breath smells. It's actually divine.
          Curious, u seem autistic? U have a very child like way about u.

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            #225
            Originally posted by Mike D



            I know you & I made a pact not to argue this, but I just wanted to respond here. The part about Pacquiao fans not going into detail about defending his career. First of all, his career speaks for itself. There's really no need to even need to defend it. Virtually all boxing experts, historians and actual boxers have him as a living legend, first ballot hall of famer and certified all-time great.

            Anyway here's why I personally don't go into detail when defending his career from Pacquiao's detractors. It's simply because it's a waste of time. Arguing boxing is like arguing politics. When the other side is dug into their beliefs, right or wrong, no matter what you say it won't change how they feel. So what's the point. There's nothing I could say that would sway you. So I'm not going to waste the effort and trying to do so. That would be futile.

            You have your opinion on him, and I have mine and we'll just leave it at that. Agree to disagree.

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              #226
              Originally posted by aAgger

              Nothing you say makes any rational sense whatsoever. Your argument has no logic behind it at all. You keep ignoring the fact that Pac is a smaller fighter than Floyd.

              We're talking about a fighter, Pacquiao, who tore through eight weight divisions, from flyweight to middleweight. That would be the equivalent of Floyd going all the way up to light heavyweight and dominating that division. If Floyd tried to pull a stunt like that, he'd get KO'd by any decent light heavyweight (hence why he only fought a YouTuber at that weight).

              If you think size don't matter, then Floyd might as well just go fight Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury. Floyd would get killed if he tried to take them on. When people claim Floyd or Pac are the best/greatest, they're talking pound-for-pound, i.e. taking their weight into account. You can't be talking about P4P best and ignore the weight, when that's the whole point of P4P.

              Floyd would never be able to dominate larger fighters than himself, the way Pac has consistently dominated larger fighters than himself. Floyd beating smaller fighters is not as impressive as Pac beating larger fighters.

              If we are talking P4P, then Pac has a stronger case than Floyd, as explained by Max Kellerman. You can't just look at who beat who, but what matters is who beat who at what weight class. That's the whole point of P4P.
              Roadblock is covering up his ears to keep his sanity. Even if you show facts and logic.. He won't make any sense out of it.. God knows I've tried. He's like a teenage boy.. Still stubborn and still needs to experience more to realize it. Be patient with him. aAgger.


              Let him watch this it might help him see the light.


              Last edited by Spoon23; 06-09-2021, 08:18 PM.

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                #227
                Originally posted by pasawayako

                again so sorry to tell u that videos don't lie. i'm still waiting if floyd can even beat a youtuber.
                RoadBlock got **** blocked again.


                Guys like Roadblock just loves to talk nonsense.. waste of bandwidth.
                Last edited by Spoon23; 06-09-2021, 08:00 PM.

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                • Spoon23
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                  #228
                  [QUOTE=MONGOOSE66;n30944861]
                  Originally posted by Spoon23

                  Curious, u seem autistic? U have a very child like way about u.
                  Awww.. Goose becoming lamer and lamer in her little sissy comebacks.. No creativity he says.. He can't even look at how much his lame comebacks sucks ass.

                  anyway, back to the program

                  Stay with me Goose! I got you in my sights! Steady now! Steady!








                  MISSILES AWAY!! SOYANARA GOOSE!! YOUR WIFE IS ALL MINE.




















                  Last edited by Spoon23; 06-10-2021, 02:49 AM.

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                    #229
                    [QUOTE=Spoon23;n30946240]
                    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                    Awww.. Goose becoming lamer and lamer in her little sissy comebacks.. Not creativity he says.. He can't even look at how much his lame comebacks sucks ass.

                    anyway, back to the program

                    Stay with me Goose! I got you in my sights! Steady now! Steady!








                    MISSILES AWAY!! SOYANARA GOOSE!! YOUR WIFE IS ALL MINE.











                    Nice pictures re Tard. Your copy and paste talents are most impressive. Why don’t u workout. Go to the boxing gym. Get in the ring. It’s better than sitting at the computer all day. Doing nothing but ******* off to pictures of boxers.
                    Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 06-10-2021, 01:50 AM.

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #230
                      [QUOTE=Spoon23;n30946240]
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                      Awww.. Goose becoming lamer and lamer in her little sissy comebacks.. Not creativity he says.. He can't even look at how much his lame comebacks sucks ass.

                      anyway, back to the program

                      Stay with me Goose! I got you in my sights! Steady now! Steady!








                      MISSILES AWAY!! SOYANARA GOOSE!! YOUR WIFE IS ALL MINE.





















                      And a few days ago youre telling us that your 50 with a family and had 12 yrs boxing , this rubbish is from a child.

                      You are such a fake how can anybody but a 12 yr old take you seriously, you're just a straight-up liar you got no integrity, I dont know why people like you feel a need to just tell stories.

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